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Re: No (Re: WPSTCR)

by mugwumpjism (Hermit)
on Aug 17, 2001 at 21:26 UTC ( #105739=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to No (Re: WPSTCR)
in thread Women Programmers, Sex, Tai Chi and Reincarnation

Sure, it might be illegal to discriminate in the work force, but I think you'll find it's not forbidden for boys to make lewd comments in school between themselves about girls.

Update: Apparently, in the States this is illegal. I stand corrected, though anyone who tries to say that this sort of legislation achieves anything but more jobs for lawyers doesn't understand children. Are the lawmakers over there that detacted from reality?

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Re: Re: No (Re: WPSTCR)
by footpad (Monsignor) on Aug 17, 2001 at 21:38 UTC

      I don't believe it! Only in the US! Let me ask you this: how can you expect that kind of legislation to work?

      Sorry, no. pubescant kids will be pubescant kids, prohibiting behaviour like that will not stop it from happening.

      Compare with the war on drugs, they're illegal but their usage is increasing. The US is blindly telling everyone "thou shalt not", but only people with really closed minds actually buy their arguments; they haven't worked on solving the root causes of the problem; mainly lack of understanding by the general public, and the greed of black market dealers. Another thoroughly ineffective piece of legislation from the US.


        Yes, the laws are stupid, but so are the adults that not only ALLOW it, but foster these mindsets in their children (and in the case of people like teachers, care givers, etc) and in our own.

        The Law makers don't know how else to tell you to STOP TELLING YOUR KIDS THAT IT'S OKAY TO DISCRIMINTATE!!

        We tell them through OUR actions, how we treat women, or other races, etc.

        Why do we need an ammendment declaring equal rights for women?!? It's all ready stated in the constitution that we are all created equal, did we need that clarified? That it was WRONG to discriminate against women?!? Apparantly so, and it still hasn't worked. Dammit. It's like helmet laws for motorcycles. I don't think there should be helmet laws, but only because I HOPE that it will start weeding out the idiots who don't think it's smart to wear them. As a close friend of mine that does NVH testing for Harley said "So what if they crash them...We'll make more"

        But I digress.

        The point is being missed. You're right, laws aren't going to change this. How we think, act and believe needs to be effected, and if we start by teaching our children what is right, not by societies standards per se, but by human standards, then it will change. Law makers see the problem, but they can't make us change the way we think, or teach our children, so they do what they can, as ineffective as it is.

        We ALL need to look in the mirror and poin the finger of blame, only then do we have a chance.


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