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by daxim (Chaplain)
on Nov 12, 2013 at 16:03 UTC ( #1062226=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: PERL DOUBT
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Downvote for the chauvinist attitude unbecoming of an elder monk. Instead of berating you, I will use the opportunity to educate you – prosit.

To better understand where ijalab22 comes from (not in a geographical sense), read tl;dr Oftentimes software engineers in India are pushed into the position, whereas in the cultural circle that we both share it is almost always a matter of choice, even following a personal calling, finding fulfillment as opposed to "just a job", and ultimately the reason that we spend time here to learn and help our fellows. Understand the implications of this difference. It does not excuse coming here with a question that close to a demand, and so I downvoted the op, too, but it explains the behaviour one often sees on programmer Q&A sites. Neither are you then justified to start becoming hostile.

The word "doubt" is perfectly cromulent Indian English. Such a thing exists, deal with it, but not by making fun of it or alienating a speaker. You wouldn't do this with an Antipodean or Canadian over their "non-standard" vocabulary, would you?

I hope this serves to adjust your attitude.

-- With respect, /me

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by LanX (Bishop) on Nov 12, 2013 at 16:36 UTC
    > You wouldn't do this with an Antipodean or Canadian over their "non-standard" vocabulary, would you?

    If he breaks so many netiquette and board rules like the OP, I would and I do... Why not?

    in details:

    • title lacking any information
    • capitalizing = screaming
    • showing no effort
    • claiming his problem to be more "urgent"

    Cultural ignorance is not a one way street, patronizing South Asians¹ and assuming them not being able to adapt to common grounds or irony is reverse racism.

    Critic is the base of modern science, modern science is the base for IT.

    I seriously doubt that sparing the OP from criticism does help him improving his IT skills.

    Cheers Rolf

    ( addicted to the Perl Programming Language)

    ¹) why Indian? why not Bangladeshi or Pakistani?


    > tl;dr

    very interesting link, full of insights, thanks for sharing! =)

      • Posting an inquiry on a PerlMonks forum that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Perl
      • Posting the same inquiry twice
      • Calling whatever script he intends to write—or have written for him for free—a "batch file"
      • Calling Perl "PERL"
      • Disappearing in silence after having not gotten the spoon-feeding—or free script—he came here for
      Its simple; bigots raised in the Balkans tend to zero in on race/religion/country as the reason yet another of these guys is being rude/ignorant/whateveroffendingourdelicatesensibilities

      They can't divorce country of origin or ... from the behaviour, so they hapilly never miss an opportunity to point this out

      Its demonization, just like the Balkanites learned last century (learned how-to-do-it instead of not-to-do-it)

      so the OP doesn't understand some netiquete rules, doesn't matter where OP is from, origin is irrelevant

      Its not enough Jenda takes every opportunity to be as rude as possible because we don't have to be nice to each other, because hey, we're all adults here. , he has to go the extra mile and make it racist; its ad-hominem at its worst

      This kind of garbage doesn't belong on perlmonks and should be reaped, as it damages perlmonks reputation

by Jenda (Abbot) on Nov 12, 2013 at 17:31 UTC

    How's commenting on an apparent shared trait of people from a specific country "chauvinist"? Especially in reply to a perfect example of said trait? I mean even if I use the regional or race based definition of chauvinist it's not a case of "the belief that your country, race, etc., is better than any other", but rather at most that "that country is in this particular issue worse than any other". I know it's not politically correct to notice something like this unless of course the worse group has less pigment, but what the heck.

    OK, so someone's parents forced him to spend several years visiting an institution and ignoring a subject he's not interested in and has no ability to master and now he landed a job he's unable to fulfill. Tough beans! The sooner said person leaves IT the better. The sooner parents of other young Indians learn that a paper from a "university" doesn't mean a stable and well paid job, the better! Only now have I become hostile, there was nothing hostile in the previous post. I'm hostile for a reason. I've had to fix the mess caused by those poor fellas forced to become programmers a few times.

    Yes, I know Indians do use "doubt" to mean "question". So often you can call that "(humorous) Fine, acceptable or normal; excellent, realistic, legitimate or authentic. - A humorous neologism coined by television writer David X. Cohen; see 1996 quotation." Indian English. It does confuse people that are not aware of that though.

    Enoch was right!
    Enjoy the last years of Rome.

      How's commenting on an apparent shared trait of people from a specific country "chauvinist"?

      chauvinism: the belief that your country, race, etc., is better than any other

      chauvinism: an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex a group of people; also : behavior expressive of such an attitude

      repeatedly writing about this is propaganda, ad-hominem of the worst kind

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