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Re: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 9: RPerl.org & The Low-Magic Perl Commandments

by ysth (Canon)
on Nov 18, 2013 at 03:57 UTC ( #1063034=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 9: RPerl.org & The Low-Magic Perl Commandments

From 2007-2009, there was a similar project "kurila"; you might want to look at some of the work there. Releases of kurila can be found on CPAN.

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Re^2: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 9: RPerl.org & The Low-Magic Perl Commandments
by Will_the_Chill (Pilgrim) on Nov 18, 2013 at 17:19 UTC
    ysth,

    Thanks for the info!

    I looked at kurila and found that, while it is also a Perl 11 type project like RPerl, our differences outweigh our similarities...

    From Kurila Intro POD:

    Goals

    Experimenting with the Perl language.
    RPerl is only experimenting with speed, not new language features.

    Removing ugly things.
    Yes RPerl does remove some ugly parts of Perl 5.

    Adding ugly things.
    Heck no, RPerl isn't adding anything to Perl 5 other than speed, much less ugly things!

    Changing old design decisions.
    RPerl is only against slowness, not necessarily actual design decisions.

    Readable, modifiable perl source.
    Okay, sure, we all want more readable code, right? Right???

    Kurila is not intended to be compatible with Perl 5.
    RPerl compiles low-magic Perl 5 code into drop-in Perl-5-compatible replacement functions. Backward compatibility with Perl 5 and XS is important to RPerl.

    Interesting stuff!

    Perling,
    ~ Will the Chill
      although there are couple of unessential differences that you mentioned, there is one huge common thing between kurila and your rperl - these both have user base approaching to zero....

      read kurila ml archives
      the sooner you understand this the better, in terms of wasted efforts......

      speed is not the goal of perl, for this we have C and inline::c... perl is o(fun) and o(hard things easy) but not for speed.... you're mistargetting the goal, hence the aforementioned epic fail in the future......

        Silly. speed is not the goal of perl, for this we have C and inline::c... the sooner you realize this the sooner you will stop trying to make using Inline::C easier

        Its almost as if you don't want Will the Chill to use Inline::C for speed

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