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Re: Re: Learning English as a First (natural) language

by Hanamaki (Chaplain)
on Aug 02, 2002 at 15:00 UTC ( #187114=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Learning Perl as a First (programming) language
in thread Learning Perl as a First (programming) language

I think English is not a good first language. Sure, there might be a few successes, but just go read any usenet group for a month and see how often and horribly it can go wrong.

English is a powerful, but dangerous language. We don't learn people how to drive using a Ferrari, people don't learn to fly in an F-16 jet, nor do people learn programming by implementing machine translation systems. Why should natural languages be any different? It's good to have training wheels. Many language IMO are much more suited to learn a language. To name a few: Latin, Classical Greek and Hebrew. Probably Classical Chinese as well.

English is not suitable for everyone. In fact, I believe that more than 75% of the people currently speaking English should be using a different language (or maybe not even speak at all). Using English as a first language only increases the number of bad English speakers, further clogs forums like comp.lang.perl.misc and contributes to the bad name Perl already has.

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Re: Re: Re: Learning English as a First (natural) language
by BUU (Prior) on Aug 02, 2002 at 17:20 UTC
    It's a good thought, but english is a bloody confusing language. Much more so then other 'romance' languages and derivatives, as english's 'syntax' is semi-random and it takes years of speaking it to even get close to being fluent.

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erix stops reading as recommended by the blog itself
[erix]: my attention being jealously guarded ;)
[shmem]: erix, yes, it's a WTF. Since...
[erix]: antisemitic && (pro-)russian. Makes sense :P
[shmem]: erix: what's antisemitic in there? Tell me.
[erix]: AngloZionist
[shmem]: and it is *not* pro-russian. It describes the western world.
[erix]: I'm not going to read it so I could be mistaken but it reeks of useful idiocy
[shmem]: AngloZionist is not an antisemitic term.
[shmem]: erix: be assured that we all are horribly mistaken, always. What would we write tests for, if not for that fact?

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