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Re: On human nature

by dug (Chaplain)
on Oct 16, 2002 at 02:34 UTC ( #205616=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to On human nature
in thread Get All Duplicated Elements in an Array (Once, without shifting)

  Unfortunately, first impressions are everything.

Or fortunately. I was fortunate enough to read Learning Perl, and realize that merlyn is not only an adept writer, but that he also cares deeply about the subject matter. That was my first impression.

Now I come here and don't even have to pay money to learn from him. He just reviews code for free. Not a bad deal. One of these days I want my company to be making the kind of money that can bring Mr. Schwartz in for a week to do hands on training and code review with me and my fellow coders. Until then, I thank not only merlyn, but all of the other donors here at Perlmonks.

They are helping me become a better programmer. For free. That's tough to beat.

-- dug


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Re: Re: On human nature
by thor (Priest) on Oct 16, 2002 at 05:09 UTC
    merlyn is not only an adept writer, but that he also cares deeply about the subject matter.
    I don't doubt this for a bit. In fact, I couldn't agree more. What I am questioning here is what management likes to call "soft skills". Communication when someone else is on the receiving end is different than putting knowledge on a piece of paper. Arguably, the latter is easier.

    thor

      Applying 'soft skills' to matters of logic and efficiency doesn't seem to apply here. We are putting knowledge on paper! I'd rather demand clarity than worrying about users being politically correct.
      What management likes to call 'soft skills' is what I like to call 'bullshit'... If you want to manage people, be my guest, but last I checked, management wasn't able to offer me any insight as to why my code wasn't working.

      The problem with people nowadays is that they're too sensitive to honest and insightful criticism. Sadly, the unwillingness to be open to unedited criticism is a leading contributing factor to ignorance. With that said, it should be noted that that's not what this thread is about at all.

      merlyn's post was a simple correction of incorrect code. Computers don't know anything about 'soft skills' so often there's a disconnect between what people intend and what they convey in their code. I personally appreciate it when someone points out an error that I either may have made inadvertently or that I simply didn't know was an error in the first place. I don't critique the way the error was made known to me, I just accept the fact that I made a mistake and learn from it. Perhaps you'd do better to do the same.

        Since the manner of presentation doesn't matter to you, the next time you make a mistake (and it will happen; you are not a computer), you'd be just as receptive to someone walking into your cube and yelling at the top of their lungs "YOU BLEW IT!" as you would to someone saying "Hey Matt...we need to talk"? I mean, it's all about the code, right? Before you call me out and say that that's not what merlyn did, yes...I know that. I'm exaggerating for a point.

        As geeks, we'd like to think that the people skills are irrelevant...that we are just as emotionless as the computers that do our work for us. Fortunately or no, that's not the way the real world works. Being nice really doesn't cost any more, but it sure does pay back a lot more in rewards. Bottom line: being an ass in this day and age is almost a conscious decision.

        thor

        The only easy day was yesterday

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