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Possible first post syndrome remedy

by nothingmuch (Priest)
on Oct 20, 2002 at 14:47 UTC ( #206653=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

First i' d like to apologize for first sending this out to the wrong place.

I've Super Searched perlmonks for posts dealing with first posts, and have not seen any prior discussion, although there probably already was one. here goes...

After having previewed a reply to a node (if you're righteous), I think that a "First post submit" button could be of use. This button should submit in case you've just submitted the first reply. If the node has already been addressed, then you are notified and brought back to the preview results page instead.

I reckon this won't work for real first post behavior, but only for swift appropriate responses.

It just seems odd to see 3 replies, all nearly the same within a minutes proximity to each other...

Will it aid? or just be more clutter?

zz zZ Z Z #!perl

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Re: Possible first post syndrome remedy
by dws (Chancellor) on Oct 20, 2002 at 16:55 UTC
    It just seems odd to see 3 replies, all nearly the same within a minutes proximity to each other...

    Turn this around. Say you post a question, and see 3 quick replies that say the same thing. Might that not give you more confidence that the answer is correct?

    I'm not seeing a problem here that a "first post" button solves.

      A point indeed... I am convinced.

      However, i doubt i could help but slightly feel embarraced at redundancy... =)

      zz zZ Z Z #!perl
Re: Possible first post syndrome remedy
by belg4mit (Prior) on Oct 20, 2002 at 15:04 UTC
    Sometimes those 3 responses are worded differently or take different approaches. In any event, I would venture that more often than not when this occurs the answer was already readily available. What's three more answers to a FAQ?

    perl -wpe "s/\b;([mnst])/'$1/g"

      So true... within each response one can see a little window into the responders soul:
      Angry monk:
      site how to The Old Perl Monks FAQ What makes a bad question? Before You Post ... How (Not) To Ask A Question How to RTFM How to ask questions the smart way
      All forrest no trees monk:
      use strict or die;
      Curt monk:
      see pacopod
      I already asked that monk:
      I already asked that here.
      Too much time on his hands monk:
      Here are several wonderful nodes on the subject by our beloved brother tilly that I have found useful.
      No time on his hands monk:
      Don't reinvent the wheel, use God::Paco from the CPAN.
      Too helpful monk:
      As you see in the code below, I've rewritten your regex and incorporated a rather interesting example of the Swartzian Transform. Also, I've made it object-oriented to improve readability.
      Module monk:
      I've written a module for this that I haven't published to the CPAN yet.
      Column monk:
      I've already written a column about that.
      Benchmark monk:
      Your solution is very slow compared to Perl's native paco function:
      Benchmark: timing 10000 iterations of paco, wako... paco: 4 secs ( 3.97 usr 0.01 sys = 3.98 cpu) wako: 6 secs ( 4.97 usr 0.00 sys = 4.97 cpu)
      Einstein monk:
      my $contextual = '(?:c(?:bex|e(?:bax|vpxf?)|hff(?:vrf|l)|vff(?:\\ gnxr +|\\-gnxr|gnxr|r(?:ef|[feq])|vat|l)?)|dhvzf?|ebbg(?:r(?:ef|[eq])|vat|f +)?|f(?:bq(?:q(?:rq|vat)|f)?|chax|perj(?:rq|vat|f)?|u(?:nt(?:t(?:r(?:e +f|[qe])|vat)|f)?|vg(?:g(?:r(?:ef|[qe])|vat|l)|r(?:ef|[fqel])|vat|[fr] +)?))|g(?:heqf?|jngf?|vgf?)|jnax(?:r(?:ef|[eq])|vat|f)?|n(?:ef(?:r(?:\ +\ ubyr|\\-ubyr|ubyr|[fq])|vat|r)|ff(?:\\ ubyrf?|\\-ubyrf?|rq|ubyrf?|v +at))|o(?:ba(?:r(?:ef|[fe])|vat|r)|h(?:ttre|yy(?:\\ fuvg(?:g(?:r(?:ef| +[qe])|vat)|f)?|\\-fuvg(?:g(?:r(?:ef|[qe])|vat)|f)?|fuvg(?:g(?:r(?:ef| +[qe])|vat)|f)?))|n(?:paco|yy(?:r(?:ef|[qe])|vat|f)?)|yb(?:bql|j(?:\\ +wbof?|\\-wbof?|wbof?)))|p(?:bpx(?:\\ fhpx(?:ref?|vat)|\\-fhpx(?:ref?| +vat)|fhpx(?:ref?|vat)|f)?|enc(?:c(?:r(?:ef|[eq])|vat|l)|f)?|h(?:agf?| +z(?:vat|zvat|f)))|q(?:batf?|vpx(?:\\ urnq|\\-urnq|rq|urnq|vat|yrff|f) +?)|s(?:hpx(?:rq|vat|f)?|neg(?:r[eq]|vat|[fl])?|rygpu(?:r(?:ef|[efq])| +vat)?)|u(?:hzc(?:r(?:ef|[eq])|vat|f)?|n(?:eq[\\-\\ ]?ba|ys(?:\\ n[fe] +|\\-n[fe]|n[fe])frq))|z(?:bgure(?:\\ shpx(?:ref?|vat)|\\-shpx(?:ref?| +vat)|shpx(?:ref?|vat))|hgu(?:n(?:\\ shpx(?:ref?|vat|[nnn])|\\-shpx(?: +ref?|vat|[nnn])|shpx(?:ref?|vat|[nnn]))|re(?:\\ shpx(?:ref?|vat)|\\-s +hpx(?:ref?|vat)|shpx(?:ref?|vat)))|reqr?))';

      (UPDATE: Fixed some thread display issues. Funny how an HTML definition list looks different in a thread than as a stand alone node.)

      (UPDATE 2: Doing an XHTML version of a DL seems to fix the formatting on the different views (Thanks to Aristotle for the idea). Let me know if there are still problems. Also, how about golf monk? )


        What about Comedian monk?

        ++ BTW. :-)

        "My two cents aren't worth a dime.";

        Golf monk:
        I've shorten your code to 13 strokes perl -0777pale '$_=@F'
        Scoundrel anonymous monk:
        merlyn sucks
Re: Possible first post syndrome remedy
by atcroft (Monsignor) on Oct 20, 2002 at 16:15 UTC

    Honestly, I don't think there is quite such a problem with "first posts" here as on some other sites, although that is probably more related to the nature of the site and the general level of maturity of those participating herein. The "first posts" I see here are generally helpful, unlike those on other sites I have seen. I have seen mention of it before at least once in an article (which I can't recall at the moment) on (I think) XP whoring, though.

    If I am thinking of the same article you are, the first response was dated 3 minutes after the article was posted, the next two responses were dated a minute later, and the original author responded within 14 minutes of his original posting to thank the respondants for the assistance. I think all three used a similar approach, although I think that was more due to the way the question was asked and the problem space than anything else, and each, iirc, added additonal information to the solution in their explanations.

    I don't know that a button like that would be helpful, though, and I would think there may be a small window where concurrent additions could still occur. Just a few thoughts.

Re: Possible first post syndrome remedy
by LTjake (Prior) on Oct 20, 2002 at 15:13 UTC
    I'm not sure I see any added benefit to that approach. Having three similar (but generally unique) responses usually reinforces the point stated in those posts. This is, i think, a good thing.

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