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Re: Re: Re: Re: Is perl scalable?

by hding (Chaplain)
on Dec 06, 2002 at 22:28 UTC ( #218171=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Re: Re: Is perl scalable?
in thread Is perl scalable?

Actually, Graham worked with the CLISP implementation, which is not exactly noted for being the fastest one around. It's quite possible that Yahoo would have been able to get the results they wanted speedwise by switching to a more suitable implementation of Common Lisp. (For example, type and optimization declarations are ignored, even now, by CLISP.) And while Graham is obviously a very good and respected Lisp programmer (I think I'd stop short of calling Mr. Lisp, though), even he's going to have a problem working around something like that. It would have been interesting to see how it fared if Yahoo had chosen instead to port it to something like Allegro CL, Lispworks, or CMUCL.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is perl scalable?
by shotgunefx (Parson) on Dec 06, 2002 at 22:49 UTC
    While I have only a cursory knowledge of Lisp and the community, pg seems to be a fairly prominent figure. I've see alot of references to his books and comments are usually speak highly of him. Regardless, I don't doubt that there isn't a way to speed it up, (As I noted, I think one of the additional reasons is many more C/C++ programmers to tap) but I doubt outside of assembler, that you'll get faster runtimes than C with anything. Development time is another issue entirely :)


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[ambrus]: Corion: the solution depends on who for. Some non-math presentations need to show lots of graphics or photos, with fine details and color. For those, blackboard or overhead transparencies aren't so good (yes, you can print on transparencies, but there's s
[ambrus]: ome quality limits), but film projection or computer projector is fine.
[ambrus]: A minority of math presenters are traditional and don't want to operate a computer. For them, handwritten overhead transparencies and blackboard are fine.
[Corion]: BTW, has anybody seen the Microsoft Surface Studio thing live?
[ambrus]: Some will operate a computer, but want to operate crazy unusable android-like GUIs. For those, printed overhead transparencies or simple slide editors and maybe even tablets are fine.
[ambrus]: Some people like me are fine in learning how to use some custom user interface. For me, I might want to make some keyboard- controlled interactive live slide writer program, like I said in the hypothetical case when I have lots of years of free time for th
[Corion]: ambrus: Some of my math professors delegated TeX-ing of the exercises etc. to their secretaries :) But they all had very neat handwriting and good blackboard operation anyway ;)
[ambrus]: is.

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