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Re: There's a level in Hell reserved for ________

by John M. Dlugosz (Monsignor)
on Feb 28, 2003 at 16:55 UTC ( #239477=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to There's a level in Hell reserved for ________

... webdesigners who fix the font size of a page waaaay too small and don't let the client's Text Size setting do anything.

... webdesigners who disable the right-click on their page.


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Re: There's a level in Hell reserved for ________
by jonadab (Parson) on Mar 01, 2003 at 19:39 UTC

    Dude, Edit->Preferences->Appearances->Fonts and set the minimum font size to about 12 or 14. Problem solved. You are using a recent version of Mozilla, of course, right? Most of the previous user's complaints can be solved too. The one thing Moz doesn't do yet is scale images down to prevent the need for horizontal scrolling. There's a bug filed on that, but it hasn't been fixed yet.


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      I'd rather be able to use the wheel to zoom the window as I feel like it. Sometimes I want to sit back and relax and read something; other times I'm in normal work position closer to the screen. So, I want to just disable the font size pegging. Use their size as a starting value, sure. I think Opera zooms by changing the window world coordinate system mapping, so a "8 point font" can be an inch tall, without the layout engine caring or being any the wiser. And that scales the images, too!

      No, I've not tried Mozilla except once in the very early days. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm hooked on the Google toolbar, though... and things like MSDN and CHM files insist on using IE, so I'll have to know two systems.

      —John

        I'd rather be able to use the wheel to zoom the window as I feel like it.

        Having a minimum font size still allows you to zoom it up, no problem there. The minimum is just a minimum. What the wheel does (with or without various modifier keys) is another preference, and text zooming is one option. Scaling the whole page (including images) hasn't landed yet, though; Opera is ahead of Mozilla there (and in a couple of other areas; e.g., Opera supports more of the page-break stuff in CSS2).

        No, I've not tried Mozilla except once in the very early days.

        A couple of years ago Mozilla hit critical mass; it has picked up a lot of active developers and now moves along very quickly. If you try it again, you will find yourself compelled to upgrade at least once a quarter, because a version older than that seems klunky by comparison. I absolutely can't use versions from the 1.0 release branch (cut in spring 2002) anymore (much less legacy browsers), because too many features are missing.

        I'm hooked on the Google toolbar, though...

        What, that old thing? The Googlebar has features that it is missing.

        and things like MSDN and CHM files insist on using IE, so I'll have to know two systems.

        The fiasco with MSN and MSDN only working with MSIE is ancient history. I think it lasted for all of a week and a half. (I think the W3C threatened them with some kind of public exposure, because they were erroneously claiming compliance with W3C standards as their excuse for locking out "non-compliant" browsers, some of which were a good deal more compliant than MSIE.) You've never seen Microsoft backpedal so fast. Since then they've begun to take Mozilla seriously. They even fixed the MSKB problem that caused overlapping text in Mozilla.

        I don't know what CHM files are, though.


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