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Re: Developer Accountability

by dragonchild (Archbishop)
on Apr 29, 2003 at 19:08 UTC ( #254059=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Developer Accountability

Wow. An excellent Meditation that touches on many, if not most, of the sore points in our profession. I'm only going to elaborate on one point.

I think it is time for us to start insisting on Q&A and development life cycles that mean something.

How would you suggest doing that if you're in a company whose CTO blames the developers for shoddy work when each developer has 27 days from being handed requirements to delivery into production, regardless of the scope of change? (Yes, I've been in that situation.) Expectation management is not just between developers and consumers. It's between developers and "Other", for all forms of "Other". It's often between developers and other developers.

Furthermore, just like in any industry, there are bad programmers and there are lazy programmers and there are disinterested programmers. There are programmers who've been told "You're the programming guy, go fix XYZ before the demo this afternoon." XYZ happens to be in a language you don't know on a platform you've seen once before. But, you're the programming guy, so you need to solve it. (And, yes, I've been in that position, too.)

In my opinion, Management is the one that is causing the issues. Now, they may be doing so because consumers have been conditioned to expect stuff to be half-assed, so management has to beat the next guy who will make his programmers do things "The Wrong Way"(tm). The only way to do that, it seems, is to be "wronger" than the next guy.

So, I guess the expectations that need to be managed isn't to reduce the "Gimme more features" cry but to increase the "Gimme stability" cry. We need to make J. Q. Public realize that the best features are useless unless the foundation works.

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We are the carpenters and bricklayers of the Information Age.

Don't go borrowing trouble. For programmers, this means Worry only about what you need to implement.

Please remember that I'm crufty and crochety. All opinions are purely mine and all code is untested, unless otherwise specified.


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Re: Re: Developer Accountability
by cacharbe (Curate) on Apr 29, 2003 at 19:22 UTC

    Oh, I know all about being the one that's blamed for management mis-expectation (see any or all in my Drama series). It is yet another Ouroboros. I guess all I can say is that as we like-minded developers move forward in the ranks, begin to manage, project manage, lead and architect, we can begin to effect the correct change on those that follow us, and those above that have learned to listen to us.

    I've been slowly integrating my thoughts on project management (that there should be some) and expectation management (that we should help dictate time lines, etc, since we know how the hell to actually do our job) around my work place, but there is still such a long way to go.

    C-.

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Re: Re: Developer Accountability
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 29, 2003 at 20:16 UTC
    My my ... front-paging a node that you have responded to. This is almost as bad as front-paging ones own node.
      My my ... front-paging a node that deserves it, then adding my two cents in. Or, are you saying that I should not respond to a node I front-page?

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      We are the carpenters and bricklayers of the Information Age.

      Don't go borrowing trouble. For programmers, this means Worry only about what you need to implement.

      Please remember that I'm crufty and crochety. All opinions are purely mine and all code is untested, unless otherwise specified.

      *ahem* Dragonchild frontpaged it before it was ever responded to. Not that it matters one lick. I don't write things to get rep or to be frontpaged, I write them to spark thought, conversation and for the entertainment or education of others.

      From what I've seen of dragonchild, the same holds true.

      C-.

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      Flex the Geek

      Why would an Anonymous Monk (or anyone else) care?

      You really should frontpage everything except complete trolls. Maybe a "don't frontpage" option would be better?

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