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RE: RE: Proposed XP System Changes

by atl (Pilgrim)
on Aug 04, 2000 at 14:54 UTC ( #26164=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to RE: Proposed XP System Changes
in thread Proposed XP System Changes

Poor boy! IŽll vote you up so you can make it to monk today. ;-)

Andreas

UPDATE: It seems that it didnŽt work right. After my ++vote his node had a rep of 1 (which suggests that it was the first ++vote), but his XP count stuck at 199.
UPDATE 2: See vroom's node for an explanation.


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RE: RE: RE: Proposed XP System Changes
by vroom (Pope) on Aug 04, 2000 at 22:28 UTC
    I've looked at the voting record for this node and there were 3 negative votes, then a positive one, then your positive one. So he received the plus 1 rep from the previous ++ vote. The postbonus flag for the node is also checked so everything should be in order.

    vroom | Tim Vroom | vroom@cs.hope.edu
      Aha! Are you saying it's possible to find the total number of ++ versus -- votes on a given node? Is is possible to add that to node reputation display? Inquiring minds want to know....

      I've had quite a few nodes appear to bounce up and down in rep and I think this would be a fascinating indicator of how interesting|controversial|provocative a node is.

        Yeah, for a week now I've been thinking it would be cool to show net rep (just like now) and minus votes (if any) (like "Reputation: 4 (-3)" for 7 plus and 3 minus votes), but only for nodes you own. I don't think the number of minus votes should be public, but I don't feel strongly about that point.

        I agree with the comments on being able to see the ++ and -- votes on a given node. That would be an interesting little stat to have.

        Another suggestion I'd like to throw out there, is I think it would be good if, after we've used all our votes for the day, we could see the reputation on any node, even if we hadn't voted on that node. One of the things people have been emphasizing is getting new monks to learn about what are good and bad posts by having the voting bonuses still apply for the lower levels. But the lower levels are only supplied with a small amount of votes, making it so we only see the reputations for just a few nodes per day.

        I definitely see the wisdom of not letting people see the reputations before voting. Otherwise votes might be swayed because people are expecting nodes with high reps to be good and nodes with low reps to be not so good. Once all the votes have been used for the day, this ceases to be an issue, however.

        Another option would be to have another vote type, kinda like the null vote in that it wouldn't change the nodes reputation at all, but would let the person see the nodes rep. Of course this would only let people who have votes to give see the nodes reps.
      Thank you for checking! :-)

      I agree with the previous posts, I'd like to see the plus and minus counts, too. After all they indicate wether or not the general opinion on a given node is unanimous or controversal.

      But that shouldn't be restricted to one's own nodes, I'd like to see them displayed every time the count is displayed. They might even be worth an own node (best nodes, worst nodes and most controversal nodes).

      What do vroom and the others think?

      Andreas

        As an incurable stats fiend, my first thought was "Cool, more stats!"

        But on second thought, do we really want to encourage controversy by publicly quantifying it?   There will always be disagreements and that's truly A Good Thing(TM), but I could do without a Most Controversial Nodes node.

        Update: s/encourage controversy/encourage more controversy/
        inspired by atl's thoughts below

        Update 2: I do agree with tye who suggested above that each Monk might benefit from seeing the swing on his/her own nodes.
            cheers,
            ybiC

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