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Re^2: Perl6 Timeline By Apocalypse

by Aristotle (Chancellor)
on Feb 28, 2004 at 11:13 UTC ( #332469=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl6 Timeline By Apocalypse
in thread Perl6 Timeline By Apocalypse

Of note is that Perl6 the language and perl6 the interpreter are being developed separately. Right now, the language spec isn't anywhere near complete, and I don't think you can truely make any sort of schedule for that kind of thing. Also note that not even the Perl5 language spec is done. Given that the perl6 interpreter can and will be developed in parallel with the Perl6 langspec, I'd say schedules will be available once the langspec is considered sufficiently complete to attempt an actual implementation; and I'd also say that once we reach that point, the implementation will be with us much sooner than you probably imagine.

Makeshifts last the longest.


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Re: Re^2: Perl6 Timeline By Apocalypse
by flyingmoose (Priest) on Feb 28, 2004 at 19:19 UTC
    So basically no one has any idea :)

    Project management in open source projects really needs to learn more from industry...

      This is not your regular industry project.

      If you want results, look at Parrot. They've been releasing often and have been making pretty impressive progress. And judging from the mailing lists, some language implementations targetting it went from experimental to "I can't believe it but this is mostly complete" in astonishingly short time. So once there's a sketch to look at for the implementation of Perl6 I'm pretty sure it will get done much sooner than anyone looking in from the outside would expect. I assume this part of the project will have little to learn from the industry.

      The Perl6 language specification part of the process on the other hand is a different kind of beast entirely. It's much more comparable with, say, a W3C TR. Not surprisingly, some of those have been known to take a while to completion as well. Fundamental design in a previously unmapped area is not something you can really plan out; in fact, Perl6 is an exception in that it does have a roadmap (that is, the Camel book chapter order).

      Makeshifts last the longest.

      Project management in open source projects really needs to learn more from industry...

      I quite agree. Industry is well known for bringing in successful IT projects on time and within budget.

      ...for the irony impared... :-)

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