been42, I can understand where you are coming from, though I know that all stores aren't like that. We have a some what small Surplus store that is near where I live. It has everything that you would expect in a Surplus store. It doesn't have (as far as I can recall) any of the stuff you mentioned. I just wanted you to know that there are still Surplus stores out there that are useful. The P38 reference reminded me that we recently purchased some for our (what we term) 72 hour packs. Not that we are survivalists, just one of those just in case kinda deals. Anyway, had to buy 7 of them, one for each member of the family. Why I bought one for my three year old I have no idea, but I did anyway. That is why P38 reminds me of where Larry explains regex basics.