in reply to Re: Re: Module::Build and the PPM
in thread Module::Build and the PPM
Barbie is on crack.
The paranoia and anger in this whole thread is really wacko.
Only in your post. If people happen to disagree with your point of view, resorting to personal attacks and vitriol only does a disservice to the discussion. At no point in my original post did I personally attack you, Ken or any of the other developers, so why do you feel the need to unleash your venom on me? For the record, despite my past, I don't do and have never done drugs.
Module::Build has nothing to do with people uploading PPMs to CPAN.
I think you need to carefully think that reasoning through. People use Module::Build to create distributions so they can distribute them to a wider audience. Part of that distribution process, in many cases, involves uploading to CPAN. Why should it be automatically assumed that someone who creates a ppm package, using M::B, will not follow the same route as they have for other distributions? While it might not directly upload to CPAN, it is part of the process that people use to upload their modules onto CPAN.
If people are uploading PPMs to CPAN and this is causing problems, then the person doing the uploading should be contacted and/or PAUSE/CPAN should be modified.
Why deal with the symptoms, which could cause a myriad of unforeseen problems, rather than look at the root of the problem? Blankly assuming you are right and everyone else is wrong, is not going to solve any issues there might be.
I don't think anyone working on Module::Build did use the naming scheme as some sort of "Perl domination scheme"
...assuming Ken & co. have some horrible plot.
I never said they did, or implied they did. I said that the discussion, both on the M::B list (it would appear) and to a wider audience, was not very well thought through, and the ideas perhaps too quickly implemented. I actually think the bigger aims of M::B are worth achieving, but the steps getting there are increasingly leading to frustration from the wider community. I also wanted to know whether my setup was an isolated case, or whether others has experienced similar problems. It would appear that they do. If I was to ask on the M::B list whether M::B was the latest and greatest, I wouldn't have expected a balanced view. I was hoping that those that have had problems were more likely to be residing here than on a module list, for which they have little or no interest in joining.
Have any of the people doing the complaining in this thread actually chimed in on the Module::Build mailing list?
Wildly claiming I am "on crack", have a "fevered imagination" and an "overwhelming ego" is nothing short of a personal attack. I am extremely doubtful Ken and the other developers share such vitriolic ideas towards me, and they are not deserving of this discussion. Inferring doubts over my mental stability and implying I'm a drug addict is both personally insulting and insulting to the community and M::B developers.
Why should I join a mailing list to seek further discussion and hopefully a resolution, when I am now likely to be flamed with personal abuse, which has nothing to do with the problems of M::B and anyone's efforts to find a solution? I would suggest you take a long hard look at how you approach your responses in future and leave the personal insults alone.
If you want people to get involved with the development, there are better ways of achieving this than your efforts here in this thread.
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