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Keep "Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules" on front page!

by Wassercrats
on Aug 31, 2004 at 17:32 UTC ( #387258=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

I haven't read all of Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules yet, but compiling modules that have .c files is much too difficult, at least on Windows, and there are no good instructions on how to do it. I was considering suggesting that this information be included in a book, in the thread Unwritten Perl Books.

Not only shouldn't that thread be taken off the front page, but if the instructions in it really work, it should be added to Tutorials.

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Re: Keep "Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules" on front page!
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Aug 31, 2004 at 17:35 UTC
    I absolutely agree with the sentiment that it should be a Tutorial. Keeping it on the front page won't work because the front page is about the most recent nodes, not the best nodes. It definitely does sound like a tutorial, though.

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    I shouldn't have to say this, but any code, unless otherwise stated, is untested

      In case I wasn't clear, I was objecting to "Considered: Courage should not be front paged," not saying that it should be kept there permanently. I just want it to receive the front page treatment it deserves.
Re: Keep "Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules" on front page!
by hardburn (Abbot) on Aug 31, 2004 at 18:56 UTC

    If you, personally, need it so badly, then either bookmark it, or add it to your personal nodelet. Personally, I almost never use Perl on Win32, and have no use for that particular node. Even if it were possible to keep it stuck on the front page, I don't think it would be a good idea. If other people need it to stick around, there are better ways than to have it permanently on front-page.

    Update: Grammour errour.

    "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

Re: Keep "Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules" on front page!
by tachyon (Chancellor) on Aug 31, 2004 at 23:27 UTC
      Someone pointed me to Installing Modules that include elements coded in C months ago, which the tutorial you mentioned also points me to. When I read

      Getting modules compiling on Win32 can be tricky. See A Practical Guide to Compiling C based Modules under ActiveState using Microsoft C++. Just getting cygwin/MinGW and gcc is not enough. The easiset solution is to try to find a precompiled binary version (try ActiveState for a PPM or the Author) or email the Author the tale of your woes. If you are using Win32 expect the author to suggest you get a real OS but.....

      I decided not to try it with those instructions. They sound incomplete. I looked elsewhere, and found nothing.

      Even though I praised jZed, there are too many components to worry about and too little support (that works) for installing modules requiring C, and I will still avoid them as long as I can, and not depend on them very much even if I get one to work.

        I'm lately of the growing opinion that some people should not be allowed to compile anything.

        If you want to compile, you should know what you're doing, because, assuming you messed up somewhere, it is going to be a big pain to get support.

        You refer to "installing modules requiring C" when in fact you are not installing, you are compiling, and there's a big difference. So I usually advise people who want to compile things, to learn C and know what is really going on, otherwise, look for binaries. There are people who provide binaries (PodMaster for example) for ActiveState.


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Re: Keep "Free MSVC tools + Activestate to compile CPAN Modules" on front page!
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 01, 2004 at 10:35 UTC

    It's hard to figure out if you are just plain dumb or rather the most clever troll who has ever plagued PerlMonks.

    Either way, the noise from your nodes is quite disturbing. Why don't you get a job? But OTOH, who in his right mind would want to hire you?

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