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Re: NodeReaper out of control

by Anonymous Monk
on Sep 18, 2004 at 20:19 UTC ( #392036=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to NodeReaper out of control

Yes! My eyes are opened; Perl Monks is completely mismanaged. Power-mad monks aiming NodeReaper at anyone they please!

How can we fix this, you say?

Borg Wassercrats more quickly next time, please.

Considered: Aristotle delete, flame
Unconsidered: ysth enough keep votes - Keep/Edit/Delete: 13/1/35


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Re^2: NodeReaper out of control
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Sep 19, 2004 at 07:23 UTC

    The one thing I find even worse than the troll's posts themselves are Anonymonk flames like this that always pop up on his threads in significant concentration.

    I considered the two nodes here for deletion (as I would have the root node, had arunbear not beaten me to it), and they got a bunch of keep votes and have positive noderep as we speak. To be fair, the ratio of delete to keep votes is 2:1, but that still means that quite a few people delight in these posts.

    I'm disappointed. I thought we were more mature than that.

    Makeshifts last the longest.

      People are fed up. Monkey cannot be reasoned with and keeps flinging his feces all over monastery. All thats left is to throw them back in his face.

        I don't know what kind of reasoning you employed to arrive at your conclusion, but to me it seems that flinging feces at a monkey is no effective way of stopping it from doing the same, and that the only motivation that adequately explains such a reaction is delight at flying feces.

        If that's what floats your boats, suit yourselves, gentlemen.

        Makeshifts last the longest.

      I considered the two nodes here for deletion (as I would have the root node, had arunbear not beaten me to it), and they got a bunch of keep votes and have positive noderep as we speak. To be fair, the ratio of delete to keep votes is 2:1, but that still means that quite a few people delight in these posts.

      Delight? Not necessarily.

      I voted "keep" on all of those nodes (as well as the others that have recently been considered "delete, troll" or "delete, flame") - not because I'm tittilated by shallow controversy and petty flamage, but because I think that's a pretty poor reason to remove content. The only nodes I vote to delete are true, word-for-word duplicates; otherwise, I don't like the idea of removing content from the Monastery, whether we like it or not.

      I guess I like to think that not sweeping our trolls and flamers under the carpet is the mature option, rather than making their nodes harder to read.

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        Fair enough, though I'll disagree on whether flames and trolls have to be tolerated (insert quip about excercising free speech by yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre here).

        I am not actually keen on deleting nodes. In fact I never delete anything on forums where I am a moderator. Unfortunately, threaded forums like PerlMonks can't really emulate what flat-threaded messageboards call "closing" a thread, which leaves it readable, but precludes any further replies.

        Ideally, people would simply refrain from replying and voting at all.

        Makeshifts last the longest.

        I voted "keep" on all of those nodes (as well as the others that have recently been considered "delete, troll" or "delete, flame") - not because I'm tittilated by shallow controversy and petty flamage, but because I think that's a pretty poor reason to remove content.

        I guess it hinges on your definition of "content". By my reckoning, most troll nodes carry the same relevance and value as true, word-for-word duplicates.

      I also voted to keep the original node. Personally, I find W to be insulting and immature; I tend to ignore most of his posts. However, Perlmonks is not meant to be limited to the mature poster. A wide variety of views and opinions are, imho, meant to be aired here. If W feels that s/he's getting the shaft, then it is not only his right to speak up, but his responsability. Do we really want a repeat of Abigail?

      I do think that many of the responses to W have devolved from reacting-to-content into reacting-to-speaker. I forget which monk has it in his sig, but "Look not at who speaks, but instead look at what is said." It's an ideal, but one I think we should all strive to achieve.

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