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Re^2: Distribution of Levels and Writeups (sig)

by tye (Cardinal)
on Sep 29, 2004 at 22:52 UTC ( #395161=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Distribution of Levels and Writeups
in thread Distribution of Levels and Writeups

Pretty pictures! :-)

Being right, does not endow the right to be rude; politeness costs nothing.
Being unknowing, is not the same as being stupid.
Expressing a contrary opinion, whether to the individual or the group, is more often a sign of deeper thought than of cantankerous belligerence.
Do not mistake your goals as the only goals; your opinion as the only opinion; your confidence as correctness. Saying you know better is not the same as explaining you know better.

I shouldn't have to say this, but any code, unless otherwise stated, is untested

I'm sorry, but I feel compelled to comment on the fact that your two words are swamped by your 91-word, 2-paragraph essay. Do you really need to included that on the bottom of every single one of your nodes?

I realize that the site offers a "sig" feature but that doesn't mean that the feature was the best idea.

Even if I customize my CSS to completely hide your signature (which I'm unlikely to do since I find completely hiding things from myself is a bad idea, at least on systems that I'm supposed to have some responsibility for -- though I do force signatures to be small-fonted and uncolored already), long signatures make it harder to Super Search.

I appreciate that you've specified <font size="-2"> to reduce the size taken up, but now you've got nearly-unreadable text. Wouldn't those words fit nicely on your home node? Then they could even be of a legible size.

Yes, there are other quite long signatures about. I've complained about some of them. Some I haven't complained about specifically (yet, anyway), though I often roll my eyes at them.

- tye        


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Re^3: Distribution of Levels and Writeups (sig)
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Sep 29, 2004 at 23:21 UTC

    I like it.


    Examine what is said, not who speaks.
    "Efficiency is intelligent laziness." -David Dunham
    "Think for yourself!" - Abigail
    "Memory, processor, disk in that order on the hardware side. Algorithm, algorithm, algorithm on the code side." - tachyon
      I don't. I'm not convinced there should even *be* a signature feature here.

        Why?

        Update: How does asking for an explanation warrent a downvote?

        My conclusion: The downvoter cannot justify their expressed opinions, so they relieve their frustrations by hitting the --.

        Ah well, plenty more where they came from:)


        Examine what is said, not who speaks.
        "Efficiency is intelligent laziness." -David Dunham
        "Think for yourself!" - Abigail
        "Memory, processor, disk in that order on the hardware side. Algorithm, algorithm, algorithm on the code side." - tachyon
Re^3: Distribution of Levels and Writeups (sig)
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Sep 30, 2004 at 01:17 UTC
    90% of the time, my nodes are at least 20-40 lines long. In those cases, does my 6 line signature really cause issues?

    I personally like the 4 lines that BrowserUk used as a kind response to somthing stupid I said. I probably will remove the last line, because it doesn't add anything. *shrugs* I don't know. This is a vi vs. emacs kind of debate. You're not the first to comment on this, and you won't be the last.

    An interesting note - PM is the only place I actually have a signature. I don't even use one at work.

    Being right, does not endow the right to be rude; politeness costs nothing.
    Being unknowing, is not the same as being stupid.
    Expressing a contrary opinion, whether to the individual or the group, is more often a sign of deeper thought than of cantankerous belligerence.
    Do not mistake your goals as the only goals; your opinion as the only opinion; your confidence as correctness. Saying you know better is not the same as explaining you know better.

      90% of the time your nodes are 20-40 lines long? Are you sure? I checked your last 10 nodes (as of this writing), and here are the line counts:
      395203:  7
      395121:  2
      395117:  3
      395114:  4
      395101:  1
      395093:  3
      395092: 11
      395090:  2
      395089: 14
      395010:  1
      
      This is using a window width where your signature itself uses 6 lines (excluding the disclaimer you sometimes use below the sig). I didn't count blank lines, but I did count lines of code that had just one character on a line. This, admittingly small, sample uses an average line count of 4.8. Which is less than your sig. In fact, only 3 out of 10 postings have more lines than your sig.
Re^3: Distribution of Levels and Writeups (sig)
by greenFox (Vicar) on Jan 28, 2005 at 03:02 UTC

    Even if I customize my CSS to completely hide your signature

    Here is the css-

    div.pmsig-85580 { display: none; }

    which I'm unlikely to do since I find completely hiding things from myself is a bad idea

    I couldn't agree more but this node was just too much for me :) I'd have prefered to replace the signature with text that said "signature hidden" or somesuch but even if it is possible my CSS skills aren't up to the job. Is there some sane way to limit signatures at a site level?

    --
    Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. -Basho

      I'm not sure if this works, but it should:

      div.pmsig-85580:before { display: block; text-align: right; color: #444; content: 'Signature hidden'; } div.pmsig-85580 { display: none; }

      Update: turns out it needs more tricks. The :before block is considered to be a child of the element it is attached to, so display:block, visibility:hidden or anything else applied to that element will also affect the :before block. So it requires a little cheating:

      div.pmsig-85580 { height: 1.5em; overflow: hidden; } div.pmsig-85580:before { content: 'Signature hidden'; color: #444; text-align: right; height: 1.5em; display: block; }

      Here the box is set to a fixed 1.5em height, all of which are then occupied by the :before block. The rest of the content would normally spill onto the elements following on the page, but is prevented from that by way of overflow:hidden — voilà.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

        Very nice thank-you :-) I started to reply to your original node with a quote from the W3C documents-

        The :before and :after pseudo-elements inherit any inheritable properties from the element in the document tree to which they are attached.

        Which you obviously worked out just as I did :)

        --
        Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. -Basho

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