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Re^2: A Proposal for Additional Levels

by davido (Archbishop)
on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:05 UTC ( #402463=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: A Proposal for Additional Levels
in thread A Proposal for Additional Levels

I agree with petruchio's plan, and even agree with the proposed number of votes per level. I don't think that saints should be dropped to 20 votes though, and here's why. If the objective for lowering the max number of votes is to reduce reputation inflation, you're already accomplishing this by reducing the number of saints. Most of us don't even use all our votes in a given day anyway, but overall, reputation inflation will be kept in check by virtue of the fact that there are more levels between initiate and saint.

As for the proposal to add new levels, I'm convinced this is a good idea. I'd love to be able to level up once more, though the proposed structure wouldn't afford me that dangling carrot. Nevertheless, it seems like it would be fun for people to have additional "just for fun" goals past 3000xp.

I also want to voice disapproval of any negative-XP levels. Leveling up is a reward, and presumably to a troll, leveling down would be seen as such too. Let's not encourage them. I do support a proposal that got kicked around awhile back to remove something more than just voting privs. from negative XP individuals, of sufficient negativocity (new word). At -40, remove the ability to edit ones existing posts, and remove the ability to talk in CB (reading is fine). At -100, remove ability to read the CB too (but reading and writing nodes is still possible). At -200, remove posting any node. ...others may disagree, and I'm not 100% convinced, but it's just a thought.


Dave


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Re^3: A Proposal for Additional Levels
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:49 UTC

    The reason I think the maximum should be lower is that I think votes are valuable things. Giving people more than they can possibly donate to the really quality nodes here just leads to inflation. For instance in this world of 40 votes im going to ++ you because I think your reply is articulate and well said. If I only had 10 or 20 votes then no-offense but I wouldn't. Thats the kind of thinking I personally would pursue.


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    demerphq

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
      -- Gandhi

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      I'll ++ that. ;)

      I do understand where you're going. But the fact that 'saint' just became more than three times harder to reach, vote inflation isn't such an issue (under the newly proposed system).

      Besides, if you stop ++'ing my nodes how am I ever going to reach level vroom? (just kidding).

      Let's comprimise in our little world of two opinions. Knock saints down to 30-35 votes, not 20. There really are a few of those days where I find a lot of good things to vote on. I hate it when, on one of those days, there's that one additional node that deserves a positive vote, and I'm out because I got really interested in some other discussion earlier and spent all my votes there. 40 is a lot, but dropping down to 20 seems a little extreme.


      Dave

        Well, the thing Is I want people to view their votes as a miser views his money. Extremely conservatively. The only way I can conceive of influencing peoples behaviour in this regard is to reduce the number of votes they have. 20 is a lot, more than enough. But I guess since we would have 20 levels it would probably be easier to use 30 or maybe 32 votes so that at some levels people get more than 2 more votes. The other thing I think is that this change should in some way or another impact everyone. For instance my level and XP here mean the current proposals would leave me unchanged. I could see some arguing that that is unfair. At the very least take away some of my votes. :-)


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        demerphq

          First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
          -- Gandhi

          Flux8


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