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RE: What's with all of the unnecessary downvoting?

by Blue (Hermit)
on Nov 14, 2000 at 01:57 UTC ( #41449=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to What's with all of the unnecessary downvoting?

There's been a good amount of previous discussion about downvoting, mostly connected to merlyn, who seems to be contreversial.

Perhaps limit the amount of time something can be downvoted - after a week or a month it can no longer be --d to limit someone with a grudge downvoting all of a person posts, loosing good information because of an unrelated bad feeling. This limit would not affect ++ - if someone finds information useful after it was written, it will most likely continue to be useful.

I don't know what type of logs are kept, but it might be possible to see if a monk downvotes much by a single user. Of course, this may be warrented like bravismore, but more likely would denote a grudge.

A collection of bots is unfortunately possible. Anywhere where lurking is allowed can give rise to it. However I know from my own experience that getting to understand the feel before becoming an active member of the community helps people adjust to the style, so I can't say lurking is bad.

The idea to get rid of the "use all votes bonus" would just slow a bot - they would still get a +1 after 25% of their votes. Moving the -- to a higher level then (2) would just delay that.

Perhaps taking the -- out of "automatic", where you have to reply to the node for it to count might work. I know this has been previously discussed and it has it's share of problems, but it would reduce grudges, and also take bootstamping from bots.

Any other ideas?

=Blue
...you might be eaten by a grue...


Comment on RE: What's with all of the unnecessary downvoting?
(redmist) RE: RE: What's with all of the unnecessary downvoting?
by redmist (Deacon) on Nov 14, 2000 at 05:27 UTC
    I don't comment on "political" issues much, but here it goes:

    "Perhaps limit the amount of time something can be downvoted - after a week or a month it can no longer be --d to limit someone with a grudge downvoting all of a person posts, loosing good information because of an unrelated bad feeling. This limit would not affect ++ - if someone finds information useful after it was written, it will most likely continue to be useful."

    I disagree. Time does not affect the quality of a node...whether the quality is good or bad. I think that a node will deserve what it deserves no matter when it is viewed and voted upon. While, this idea could prevent some abuse, I think that it would be a shame to have a limit on the time that you can reap the fruit (XP) of your labors (nodes). (And by the same token, if your fruit (nodes) are rotten, you should bear the consequences (anti-XP.)

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RE: RE: What's with all of the unnecessary downvoting?
by eLore (Hermit) on Nov 14, 2000 at 19:40 UTC
    I must whole-heartedly agree with Blue regarding necessitating a reply for a -- vote. When I write performance reviews for the people who work for me, I must document, often in gory detail, anything which they did... not so well. And, I must make suggestions on how they can improve. The HR department will not accept low scores without suggestions for improvement. Neither should we, as good monks.

    Update: Thanks to all of the people who anonymously downvoted this post. I think it proves my point...

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