I went for the turkey (always go for turkey - mmm!) but I would have picked
"the fact that I'm Canadian and therefore celebrate
Thanksgiving a month earlier when you can still play golf up here", or
something to that effect.
At the risk of flaunting my
ignorance, are there any other countries that have Thanksgiving?
I didn't actually celebrate Thanksgiving yesterday. I am going to celebrate it on Sunday though. I ate 2 eggs with alot of homefries and stuff. Then at the end I was the trash-disposal : everyone gave me their food and I would finish it. So I had quite a fill for Thanksgiving, can't wait 'till Sunday :-) (MORE FOOD)!
Nations don't have viewpoints, people have viewpoints. While a large group of people may tend to exhibit a certain characteristic as a class, to say that "America's egocentric vision as a nation" is a load of crap.
If I live in Australia and put up a poll saying "What's your favorite part of the Outback?" am I suddenly suddenly part of an egocentric Australian nation? I don't think so.
And if vroom wants a poll about how people feel about a particular American holiday, that his business. Maybe next week he'll ask what you favorite part of Passover is. If he fails to put an option "I'm not Jewish", does that suddenly make him part of an egocentric religion? I don't think so.
Polls and writings reflect the viewpoint of the writer. To make an idiotic statement that one poll is suddenly representative of an entire nation sounds to me like the person who made that statement has a problem, not the poll writer, or the nation of the poll writer.
Most people have little time or reason to think outside of their region. They're busy living *their* day to day lives, trying to make ends meet, feed the kids, pay for school, the house, the car. While we may live in a global economy, it rarely effects the average citizen at a day to day level. If Canada goes out of business, I still have to make my monthly car payment. So, naturally, I'm more concerned about what occurs near me, than anything happening 3600 miles away (unless you're planning a nuclear war).
A poll I saw not that long ago asked Russians how often they thought about American during the cold war. The answer was (not so surprisingly) infrequently. They were too busy trying to find food, heating oil, spying on each other, and the like. In fact, a number of them mentioned that the only time they thought about it was when they heard news on the radio.
I'm all for cultural awareness, global participation, blah blah blah, but until my house payment is made, I'm not going to worry about changing the way you perceive America. If you have enough time and money on your hands to worry about such things, more power to you. Wish I had your job.
By the way, all these sites that end in .NL and don't have English text on them really annoy me. How dare you publish web pages that cater only to Dutch speaking people. I think that just goes to show what an egocentric nation you Netherlanders are.
You missed my point.
I said I liked the poll because of the last option.
I know there are plenty of sites in the Netherlands that are Dutch only, and I'm not quite fond of them. Compared to France, however, it is a haven for the English speaking world.
Let me inform you of the way the language problem of a united Europe is dealt with in the Netherlands.
Every student learns Dutch, English and a bit of German here in the four forced years of education after elementary school.
Most also learn a bit of French, and some schools have the option of specializing in French/German.
English and Dutch are always compulsory, to the full effect.
Germans only learn German at school, only the higher forms of post elementary-school education teach English.
In the UK, it's pretty much the same as in Germany AFAIK, but this is fine because English is the language 'everyone' knows anyway.
France is the worst of them..
I've seen educational documentaries of French people in an English exam class, and their English was sub-par to be mild. It shows, for when in France you can forget about asking for something in English at a gas-station. (Mind you that I'm not ignorant about these countries, the distances are small in relation to the distances in, say, Australia.)
I'm not trying to make daft generalizations here, nor was I talking about America's citizens. I was referring to America as a nation. A nation may not have viewpoints, but the history and cultural context of a nation certainly influences people's viewpoints.
I suddenly realize I used a bad example, though. Language should be English-only worldwide. It's much easier that way :).
About you being concerned about yourself,...
Good :)..I am too, but I'm also curious about the structure of the world. I'm not single-minded enough to think only about myself. You are, in fact, a reflection of what you are to others. Since you're obviously depending on other people (Your employer, for example?), it's better to zoom out occasionally.
I remember trying to explain to my mom that
"No, I can't just pick the beef out of the stew..."
"Yes I still love you and your cooking. No, I don't think your bad for eating meat."
"No, my son doesn't eat meat iether."
I do not happen to be vegetarian, but we're throwing a "Friend's Thanksgiving" this Saturday, which includes a few carnivores, a few vegetarians, three vegans (no animal products at all for those not sure of the difference), and one hypoglocemic (sp?) with blood-sugar issues. Trying to do a pot luck with all of them was challenging. We ended up with everyone being able to eat at least half of what's to be brought, including 'main-course' type items. Of course, we had to resort to someone bringing a "tofurky", which is a tofu turkey, but what the heck. Got to try new things.
<code>It appears that Football is vastly underserved here. That is ok, but that is where my vote went. Well I made a Turducken. For those not in the know that is a stuffed chicken placed inside a stuffed duck inside yep you guessed it. a Turkey, stuffed of course. It is that whole loop thing that is appealing.
-Gandalf tea Wednesday.