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Re^6: Keeping, and advancing in, your job

by leriksen (Curate)
on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:37 UTC ( #436521=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: Keeping, and advancing in, your job
in thread Keeping, and advancing in, your job

How do you 'know' it works ? It isnt tested.

10,000 lines is crap, and you'll never convince me otherwise. So lets just leave it at that.

And whats with the "wheres your first major module" shit ? I've written dozens of modules for my employers, most of which have 100% coverage in D::C. Furthermore I have contributed several patches for Class:DBI as part of the Phalanx effort, all derived from using D::C. I dont have to contribute to CPAN to have an opinion, cockhead.

...it is better to be approximately right than precisely wrong. - Warren Buffet


Comment on Re^6: Keeping, and advancing in, your job
Re^7: Keeping, and advancing in, your job
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Mar 04, 2005 at 12:21 UTC
    Then the first part of refactoring is to bitchslap the original developer....

    I dont have to contribute to CPAN to have an opinion, cockhead.

    No, you don't. I used the example of my module on CPAN so as to:

    1. Demonstrate the issue isn't just with legacy code (I still actively maintain PDF::Template)
    2. Demonstrate the issue using my own personal code, saying everyone suffers from a lack of knowledge (the code was written over 2 years ago) and tuits (I have been focusing on other work and haven't written the 500+ tests needed)

    How do you 'know' it works ? It isnt tested.

    Wrong - it's "tested" over 25,000 times a day. In other words, I 'know' it works because that's what it does - work. I know the 60% that's covered works, too. I am not comfortable with that, so I will be adding more and better tests to the regression suite.

    Being right, does not endow the right to be rude; politeness costs nothing.
    Being unknowing, is not the same as being stupid.
    Expressing a contrary opinion, whether to the individual or the group, is more often a sign of deeper thought than of cantankerous belligerence.
    Do not mistake your goals as the only goals; your opinion as the only opinion; your confidence as correctness. Saying you know better is not the same as explaining you know better.

      Neither a flame nor flamebait,
      ... but seems to me that dc's "I 'know' it works...." can be a pretty good argument for hewing to the wisdom
                "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

      Bottom Line: This whole tangent re testing exposes a variety of worthwhile approaches... but the several bits of angry language and ad hominem comments between the OP and this point seem to me (yep, YMMV) unhelpful.

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