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Re: Your Perl 6 wishlist?

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on May 24, 2005 at 03:03 UTC ( #459790=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Your Perl 6 wishlist?

I hate being the one to say these things.

In no particular order:

  • The vaguest feeling that Perl6 syntax was entering the "clean up, clarify, rationalise and document phase" rather than the "throw it in and see if it flies" phase.
  • Some idea that some consideration was being given to ensure that the underpinning of the language (Parrot) will be capable of delivering the semantics of the language in something approaching real-time.
  • That one of those charged with specifying those unerpinnings had actually attempted to use the existing implementations of them before blythly spec'ing that the replacement should work the same way as the previous implementations.
  • Some signs the runtime library for Perl6 will be architected to reflect it's cross-platform aspirations by virtualisation of it's requirements, rather than taking a mid-1980s standard and then force-fitting it upon every other platform.
  • That the test suit of Perl6 components didn't simply bypass tests on inconvenient platforms in order to produce nice "headline" figures.

    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    Lingua non convalesco, consenesco et abolesco. -- Rule 1 has a caveat! -- Who broke the cabal?
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    The "good enough" maybe good enough for the now, and perfection maybe unobtainable, but that should not preclude us from striving for perfection, when time, circumstance or desire allow.


  • Comment on Re: Your Perl 6 wishlist?
    Re^2: Your Perl 6 wishlist?
    by mugwumpjism (Hermit) on May 24, 2005 at 05:40 UTC

      This node is not a general purpose "bitch at the Perl 6 project" soapbox, dude.

      Perhaps you would like to raise these off-the-mark gripes on another node so that we can rip them to shreds without tainting this node. TIA.

      $h=$ENV{HOME};my@q=split/\n\n/,`cat $h/.quotes`;$s="$h/." ."signature";$t=`cat $s`;print$t,"\n",$q[rand($#q)],"\n";

        Hey "Dude". They are my wishes. Perhaps you would see fit to not tell me what I should wish for?


        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        Lingua non convalesco, consenesco et abolesco. -- Rule 1 has a caveat! -- Who broke the cabal?
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        The "good enough" maybe good enough for the now, and perfection maybe unobtainable, but that should not preclude us from striving for perfection, when time, circumstance or desire allow.

          Hardly constructive, are they?

          $h=$ENV{HOME};my@q=split/\n\n/,`cat $h/.quotes`;$s="$h/." ."signature";$t=`cat $s`;print$t,"\n",$q[rand($#q)],"\n";
          Your "wishes" appear to be merely a laundry list of complaints lobbed in the general direction of the Perl 6 development process. If you think that is what autrijus was inviting with his Meditation, then you are seriously misinterpreting his post. As mugwumpjism says, the appropriate thing would be to start a new thread about this, not shoehorn your grievances into the form of a wish and hope nobody notices.
    Re^2: Your Perl 6 wishlist?
    by mugwumpjism (Hermit) on May 24, 2005 at 07:31 UTC

      One of the great things about pugs development is that when you wish for things, half the time, they've already been done.

      Let's examine your post in a constructive fashion and try to extract from it wishlist items that he can use to effectively enhance the project, which is what autrijus was looking for.

        OK, so out of five points we crossed off four and need a time machine to change the past for the last one! Thanks for your input!

        And yet, here we are. And where is Pugs, Parrot, Perl6, AudreyT, or Mugwumpism .....

        And whose still here?

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