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Re^2: Quite confuse about using Class::DBI to implement Data Access Objects and Value Objects Design Patterns

by monsieur_champs (Curate)
on Aug 10, 2005 at 22:16 UTC ( #482785=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Quite confuse about using Class::DBI to implement Data Access Objects and Value Objects Design Patterns
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Be sure to ask him to submit all requests as UML diagrams, in triplicate, with TPS cover sheets and circles and arrows and a diagram on the back of each one.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm really well-served on bureaucracy, believe me. The client have a CMM L2 certification and all projects must fulfill a lot of bureaucratic requirements. :-(

On the other hand, if you want to keep your job, maybe digging a little deeper is the way to go here. Maybe your architect knows what he's doing. Maybe he has solid, concrete reasons for asking you to do this.

Not really. He have a Java based mindset, just that. It's not his fault, he actually works with Java. perrin and izut arguments are enough to convince him about the non-need of VOs for implement a good DAO in Perl.

The Lucene and Plucene examples

Thanks for those. They were nice and very illustrative. It started to show the light to my poor architect. :-) May the gods bless you for this example and him for accepting it as a good starting point.

And the Java guys would rightfully snear and make posts very similar to yours.

Oh, please! I'm not sneaking. I'm posting this with the agreement of my architect. We are good friends, and both of us are having fun with this project. :-)

BTW, thank you very much for you point of view, it was quite useful. And thanks to perrin and izut for pointing good solutions for avoid extra coding and still having high quality Perl code.

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Re^3: Quite confuse about using Class::DBI to implement Data Access Objects and Value Objects Design Patterns
by Ovid (Cardinal) on Aug 10, 2005 at 22:49 UTC

    In reading my original response, I see it was a bit more snarky than it should have been. I fear that I've had to deal with "Java is the Best" folks before and I have a bit of a knee-jerk reaction when I get a whiff of someone who's not thinking beyond their particular favorite tool (including Perl). It sounds like you have a good situation going there where both of you can win. That sounds great.

    If your architect read my post, extend my apologies if I offended. That wasn't intentional!

    Cheers,
    Ovid

    New address of my CGI Course.

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