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Time-proven Perl courses?

by max-bklyn (Novice)
on Sep 09, 2005 at 00:40 UTC ( #490381=perlquestion: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??
max-bklyn has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

Hi All, Does anyone know any great Perl courses in NYC? I'm looking for something that's easy for someone who's already versed in programming quite a bit, but is now learning Perl. Many thanks in advance!

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Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by Ovid (Cardinal) on Sep 09, 2005 at 01:10 UTC

    Stonehenge offers great courses by very knowledgeable instructors, but if you're looking for a class to sit in, I'm not sure if it's the way to go.

    Cheers,
    Ovid

    New address of my CGI Course.

Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 09, 2005 at 01:13 UTC

    I down voted you, as it is unthinkable to me that someone needs to take a course to learn some language. Why cannot you just read the mannual?

    Considered by jbrugger: delete. seems to me like trolling.
    Unconsidered by Arunbear: keep votes prevented reaping; Keep/Edit/Delete: 11/0/11

      I down voted you

      And then you posted anonymously. It's unthinkable to me that some people dont have the courage to put their name to a criticism.

      I dont think it's unreasonable though that the OP would want to take a course to learn a language - maybe he wants to learn how to do things the right way from the start rather than fumbling his way along. Maybe he wants a good solid grounding and introduction to what Perl can do and how it can be done, before he then takes that learned knowledge and goes and looks at perldoc and hums along from there.

      Sure, it might not be the cheapest way, but we dont all learn in the same manner...

      Good luck to max-bklyn - welcome to the world of Perl.

        And, there are many different learning styles -- some people learn best from examples, some people need pictures, and some people do best when things are explained orally.

        Once in a while, you need to get up to speed very quickly, and taking a class doesn't give you as much of an opportunity to procrastinate. You also have someone there to ask questions if you get confused (and face to face communication is much more effective than posting on a message board)

        I think it's admirable to try to further your knowledge -- it's even better if you can manage to get your work to foot the bill for it.

      Clearly you are trolling, but what the hell...
      it is unthinkable to me that someone needs to take a course to learn some language. Why cannot you just read the mannual?
      I used to think like this too. Indeed, there is quite an ego boost associated with mastering a subject by merely reading up on it.

      A few months ago, I was talking with my favorite professor (for whom I have the utmost respect) about our respective research. I admitted to him that I tried reading one of his papers, but that it all went over my head.

      I was surprised when he told me that, for the most part, he never bothers reading papers anymore. The papers in the literature are generally written so that someone who already knows the material can verify its correctness, but someone new to the material cannot always gain a firm understanding. So if there is some new research he wants to know about, he flies out to the see the people doing the research and spends a few days with them to find out what he wants to know. He couldn't understand the stubbornness of some of his colleagues in his own building, who try to gain understanding of his complicated research from the papers alone, and with too much pride to ever walk down the hallway to talk to him about it.

      Bottom line: There's no shame in learning something in a two-way channel. It's a pretty smart way to do it.

      blokhead

Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by GrandFather (Cardinal) on Sep 09, 2005 at 01:28 UTC

    I up voted you because seeking wisdom is always a good thing to do :)

    The best course anywhere in the world is right here! Just read peoples questions and replys, read the tutorial materials, and read the Q&A and FAQ stuff and you will get more at a lower price than anywhere else at all. And the armchairs are comfortable and company excellent to boot.


    Perl is Huffman encoded by design.
Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by jkeenan1 (Deacon) on Sep 09, 2005 at 03:04 UTC
    Going back three years, I taught an introductory Perl course at the New School's Computer Instruction Center. But that subsequently went out of business -- though I doubt my course had much to do with that!

    I don't know of any other formal courses in NYC at the present time, but you're welcome to come to the monthly meetings of Perl Seminar New York http://groups.yahoo.com/group/perlsemny which will resume on the third Tuesday of October and run through May. We've been meeting since December 2000 and function as (a) the tech meeting twin sister to NY Perlmongers' social meetings and (b) the Perl SIG for NYPC Users Group.

    I'm meeting with co-moderator Alex Gill this coming week to plan our calendar for the next several months. We don't offer introductory instruction in any systematic way, but at least you'll meet other Perl hackers to whom you can direct questions.

    HTH

    Jim Keenan

Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by herveus (Parson) on Sep 09, 2005 at 15:21 UTC
    Howdy!

    University of Maryland University College http://www.umuc.edu offers a beginning and advanced Perl course (three credits each), and I think they offer them in the online format.

    yours,
    Michael
Re: Time-proven Perl courses?
by planetscape (Canon) on Sep 09, 2005 at 18:41 UTC

    When you do find a course in your area, check out Perl Training Australia's online course materials to supplement your education. :-)

    HTH,

    planetscape

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