Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 21, 2005 at 09:30 UTC
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Since 'Schwartz' is close to the German 'schwarz', meaning 'black', and since for most people, the Schwartzian Transform is sufficiently advanced, I propose to rename the Schwartzian Transform to Black Magic. | [reply] [Watch: Dir/Any] |
Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by CountZero (Bishop) on Sep 21, 2005 at 06:35 UTC
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Well, to remain consistent, it should at least be called Evanian transform and that sounds too much like an ex-catwalk model gone past her "sell-by" date or some hip French table water. It would put Perl squarely in the middle of the hip crowd, whereas Schwartzian Transform has a rough worker-like ring to it which befits the Swiss Army Chainsaw of Programming Languages!
;-)
CountZero "If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler." - Conway's Law
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Well no, the former should really be called the Schwartz Transform. After all, we don't talk of Huffmanian encoding, Hammingian coding, Lempel-Ziff-Welshian compression or Blum-Blum-Shubbian PRNGs :)
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Courage (Parson) on Sep 21, 2005 at 08:20 UTC
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Schwartz, when written in Russian, only 5 letters long and is very easy to use and remember.
That name's inconvenience is actually unfortunate effect of English spelling of non-English name, so go to linguist forum and explain there how bad spelling in English works.
Best regards,
Courage, the Cowardly Dog
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Taulmarill (Deacon) on Sep 21, 2005 at 08:30 UTC
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<joke>i would vote for "Jürgens Veränderung", because it has umlauts in it and is 100% german, not those half german half english "Schwartzian". to rename Transform to it's german equivalent is only consistent.</joke>
oh, and by the way, if this is not a joke:
you seem to be a very bored person, take your work and energy somewhere usefull. | [reply] [Watch: Dir/Any] |
Speaking of 7 consonants in a row
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Sep 21, 2005 at 19:17 UTC
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I thought it was pretty funny too and ++'d it to try to make up for the inexplicable cold reception. I am compelled to point out, however, that "Evan" is not English. It's Welsh. And we all know what those people are like.
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Tanktalus (Canon) on Sep 21, 2005 at 14:29 UTC
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Personally, I'm disappointed at the downvotes. I always thought that when one made a joke here in a direction that would normally be unpopular, one was supposed to go over the top to make it obvious that there was a joke going on here - after all, you can't see body language in a posting on the 'net. For example, my highest-rated joke post. Garnering such a decent reputation for that node, I thought, was a validation of this theory.
I suppose there are too many nationalists bringing their nationalistic politics to their voting here to see the humour. Which is unfortunate, because I've seen very little other signs of politic-based-anything here.
Don't get me wrong - I can be as nationalistic as the next person, but I don't need to use that as a gauge of humour. Being Canadian, I scoff at being called American, but Southpark's "Blame Canada" was still funny.
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Yeah, I'm kind of baffled at the reaction here too. Maybe your node was more well-received because more Monks recognize you, and realize that you are usually helpful and serious? I guess it goes to show how unpredictable other peoples' votes are sometimes. :-)
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by zentara (Archbishop) on Sep 21, 2005 at 10:58 UTC
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by revdiablo (Prior) on Sep 21, 2005 at 06:08 UTC
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You proselytizing zealot.
Update: the amount of seriousness by other Monks in this thread is making me slightly sad. :-(
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 21, 2005 at 11:20 UTC
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I don't have much trouble in writing 'Schwartzian Transform'. But who cares how it's written? The 'Gutt?man-Ross?ler Transform' is generally faster anyway, and that's what we should learn to our kids. But I can never remember how many t's and s'ses I need in 'GRT'. :\ Can't we just rename GRT to 'beer'? That's easy to spell, and allows us to talk about Perl on the NY.pm mailing list while staying on topic. | [reply] [Watch: Dir/Any] |
Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by jacques (Priest) on Sep 21, 2005 at 06:39 UTC
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Jacques Transform has a nice ring to it. :)
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Wouldn't it be Jacques's Transform? But then you end up with too many esses. :)
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No need to be possessive, neither of Fourier and Laplace were.
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by QM (Parson) on Sep 21, 2005 at 20:22 UTC
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"May the Schwartz be with you".
Damn, late again.
-QM
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by sauoq (Abbot) on Sep 21, 2005 at 16:51 UTC
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I laughed. ++
-sauoq
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by mojotoad (Monsignor) on Sep 22, 2005 at 06:28 UTC
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I see your Evan bigger than his is. Let's see how well you use it.
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by McDarren (Abbot) on Sep 22, 2005 at 06:41 UTC
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Personally, I think Schwartzian Transform is entirely appropriate and describes it perfectly
Schwartzian - only [id://merlyn] could come up with something like that.
Transform - it transforms my brain into mush when I try to get my head around it.
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 23, 2005 at 20:45 UTC
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Nice idea, way too late. Tom Christiansen, who named it the Schwartzian Transform in the first place,
made the connection in 1996.
Between the mind which plans and the hands which build, there must be a mediator... and this mediator must be the heart.
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Re: Renaming the Schwartzian Transform
by monarch (Priest) on Sep 22, 2005 at 03:22 UTC
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I am not too fond of the name, however it has gained widespread acceptance, not least due to one individual's efforts to publicise it.
I do not credit, however, the discovery of this way of sorting records to the man with the name. I have found myself doing things this way long before I arrived at perlmonks. And I have not read any articles or books by the man with the name attributed to the transform.
However, to keep things simple, as we all must strive for, the name has been given and changing it would only mark an ego vs pragmatism battle. | [reply] [Watch: Dir/Any] |
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I do not credit, however, the discovery of this way of sorting records to the man with the name. I have found myself doing things this way long before I arrived at perlmonks.
The Schwartzian Transform was named Schwartzian Transform many years before Perlmonks even existed. Lore goes that the name was given by Randals arch nemesis, Tom Christiansen. Oldest reference to 'Schwartzian Transform' I could find using Google groups dates from 1995: <4b2eag$odb@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>.
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