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(Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?

by blazar (Canon)
on Oct 26, 2005 at 09:54 UTC ( #502997=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Well, I know that a cheap answer may be "don't post OT stuff, period!" but most of us have "real lives" too, and I guess that however keen we are on Perl we also have other hobbies, or interests or a private life and the like... so if done with moderation, I don't think it would be that bad. And it would be definitely interesting if framed in the form of a link, if possibly a weak one, with Perl...

Well, since one can put everything (within reasonable limits) in his/her homenode, an option could be to post into notes to his/her own homenode. Now, this was once possible, and I can understand why it is now prohibited: it would be a mess if anyone could reply to anyone else's home node. But may this feature be brought back at least for one's own homenode?

It would be useful for stuffing in such notes contents that are relevant enough both to PM and the homenode itself, but not enough to fit in the latter - or maybe one reasonably doesn't want it to grow too much...

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Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by BUU (Prior) on Oct 26, 2005 at 09:58 UTC
    I'd actually rather like to see the ability to comment on any home node "come back" (if it ever existed at all). Was it disabled for some reason, or just never implemented?
      It was once possible hacking the url of a reply manually (see the link above), but now I get a "Can't reply to user nodes" error... there's someone who had done so and now periodically posts further notes to those notes, and so on.
Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by ambrus (Abbot) on Oct 26, 2005 at 10:51 UTC

    CB?

      Sorry, I don't use it. And I don't see how it would answer my question. The CB is an inherently transient media. When I'm talking about posting something into nodes I think it's clear enough I'm focused on persistent content...
Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by b10m (Vicar) on Oct 26, 2005 at 12:39 UTC
    Well, I know that a cheap answer may be "don't post OT stuff, period!" but most of us have "real lives" too, and I guess that however keen we are on Perl we also have other hobbies, or interests or a private life and the like... so if done with moderation, I don't think it would be that bad.

    I do think it's a bad thing. There are many, many, many, many other places you can chat about non Perl issues. Let's keep focused here. Everyone likes other stuff besides Perl too, but when I visit Perlmonks, I don't care about your non-Perl hobbies, really.

    --
    b10m

    All code is usually tested, but rarely trusted.

      Indeed Perl Monks is for discussing Perl with other persons sharing with you an interest for Perl. I don't see anything wrong with occasional discussing OT subjects with people sharing with you an interest both for Perl and for something else, especially if you can, say, draw some analogy between them or the like, whereas those "@{[(q(many))x4]}" other places you mention have nothing to do with Perl, and I have absolutely no interest in a (generic or specialized) friend finder service whatsoever.

      So it's not about discussing "non Perl issues", but about discussing "non strictly Perl issues". I expand more on the subject in my reply to Perl Mouse's one.

      Whatever, I must admit I mixed here two questions which are actually only loosely coupled, one of them being the one you've focused on, whereas the other regards the possibility of replying to home nodes, which is not certainly a total heresy, since

      • it was once present,
      • many monks including saints expressed a positive opinion.

      Personally, I see the risk in allowing replies to arbitrary homenodes, but no peril as far as this was limited to one's own homenode only.

Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by Perl Mouse (Chaplain) on Oct 26, 2005 at 13:03 UTC
    I think a lot of people visit Perlmonks because it's about Perl, and not because it's a group of people more or less connected to Perl discussing stuff. If you want that, go to #perl on IRC, or the NY or London Perlmongers mailinglists.

    The internet is a big place. Perlmonks is interesting because it specializes. And there aren't rules saying that if you join one club on the internet, you can't join any others.

    I'd say that if you want to discuss flower arrangements, or motorcycle maintainance, you should be doing that elsewhere than Perlmonks. Not only because the majority of the people on Perlmonks won't be interested in whatever non-Perl topic that will be raised here, but also because there will be other forums with lots of people interested in whatever non-Perl topic you want to discuss. Discussing it elsewhere is a "win-win" IMO.

    Perl --((8:>*

      I perfectly agree with you. Specialization, like so many other things, however is or can be a blurred concept. And it would be interesting or even desirable to have discussions with monks who share with you other interests besides Perl.

      And, of course, discussing flower arrangements, would be pointless here. I was rather focusing on subjects that may end up being related, if possibly loosely, with Perl itself.

      To reason on your same example, I think it would not be totally pointless to discuss flower arrangements and analogies of the latter with perl programming with some other monk sharing with you the same interest.

      Off topic discussions already arise here and I think you cannot avoid it: most importantly I'm sure that this doesn't lower in any way the quality of communication here, nor does it increase the noise/ratio signal, whereas the typical "specialized" questions a' la "esteemed monks, is it possible to do X in PERL?" do!

      In this vein, I was not searching a means to increase this kind of OT posts, but seeking advice wrt how to do what is "unavoidable" (in an obviously weak acceptation of the term) in the less invasive and most appropriate way...

Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by sauoq (Abbot) on Oct 26, 2005 at 18:16 UTC

    Try use.perl.org. You can write in your own journal there.

    -sauoq
    "My two cents aren't worth a dime.";
    
Re: (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?
by monarch (Priest) on Oct 27, 2005 at 05:37 UTC
    I've seen the letters "OT" pasted everywhere and always wanted to ask, but never felt it was the right forum..

    What does OT stand for?

      Off Topic.

      Off Topic.

      HTH,

      planetscape
        And.. does HTH stand for Hassel The Hoff?
      Pasting OT (off topic) is not appropriate. Either the question is appropriate for this forum, or it needs to be deleted.

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