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Re: People who write perl, Perl and PERL

by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 24, 2005 at 16:51 UTC ( #511470=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to People who write perl, Perl and PERL

The community is wrong; and that's the point. Furthermore, the community is not united on this point. Even the manual pages note that "You may or may not choose to follow this usage" with regards to the "Perl" versus "perl" misfeature.

It's simply *BAD ENGLISH* to change the meaning of a word based upon capitalization; and when we destroy the English language, we lose our ability to communicate.

As a form of disambiguation, the method chosen by the community is terrible. What if the word "perl" starts a sentence? It *MUST* be capitalized; and the distinction between the two meanings is instantly lost.

It's excessively confusing, it's noncomformant to English language capitalization standards, and it's simply unacceptable. PERL *is* a correct spelling of the acronym "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language"; anything else is *NOT*. Larry is trying to back away from the acronym he used to promote the language for years, but to this date, "man perl" give me:

perl - Practical Extraction and Report Language

That's about as offical as you can get!

Ruining the English language is simply *NOT* acceptable in exchange for a piece of whimsical jargon whose utility is minimal at best. Changing the meaning of an acronym (even a retrofitted one) years afterwards, and then claiming it's now an "incorrect usage" is equally unworthy of consideration. The community is wrong; Larry is wrong; and some people refuse, quite rightly, to follow conventions that are outright wrong.


Comment on Re: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
Re^2: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 24, 2005 at 17:13 UTC
    It's simply *BAD ENGLISH* to change the meaning of a word based upon capitalization
    Really?

    What about "god" vs "God"? You don't see the difference there? And "March" vs "march"? Or "August" vs "august"?

    Changing the meaning of an acronym (even a retrofitted one) years afterwards, and then claiming it's now an "incorrect usage" is equally unworthy of consideration.
    Really?

    So you always capitalize RADAR, LASER, SONAR, and SCUBA?

    Or can you admit that those words, while originally being justified as acronyms, are now simply names, and can be spelled radar, laser, sonar, and scuba?

    You're ranting, but we're not listening.

Re^2: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by blazar (Canon) on Nov 24, 2005 at 17:15 UTC
    1. It's not a strict rule. Nobody will bash you for writing "Perl" to refer to the compiler at the beginning of a sentence,
    2. s/(?=acronym)/back/ and you're done! And it's not "years afterwards". It was never intended to be an acronym since the beginning. It should've been clean and polished like a... ehm Pearl. But rumors are that there already existed a language called like that.
Re^2: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Nov 24, 2005 at 20:41 UTC

    No, actually, it’s “Pathetically Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister.”

    Although after your rant, it will probably have to become known as “Perverted English, Ruined Language.”

    Makeshifts last the longest.

      Stop! Please, I need to stop laughing, my stomach aches!
      Best alternative acronym meaning ever, OMG :)
      Agh! Speaking of Perverted and Ruined, why do people insist on tranmogrifying "Pathologically" into "Pathetically"? Some deep linguistic reason, no doubt--there's probably a PHD waiting for whoever figures it out... :-)

        Agh! I can’t believe I did that, nor do I know why. I suppose I miss my opportunity at a PhD then. But I want to at least know what I missed – would that be a PhD in psychology or one in linguistics?

        Makeshifts last the longest.

Re^2: People who write perl, Perl and PERL
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Canon) on Nov 25, 2005 at 12:34 UTC

    What if the word "perl" starts a sentence?
    Admittedly, this tests the resourcefulness of the writer -- as pdcawley noted as follows while repeatedly, and inventively, avoiding starting any sentence with the awkwardly cased chromatic. ;-)
    Everyone's favourite differently capitalized O'Reilly employee, chromatic (maybe the new running joke should be my struggles to avoid using his name at the start of a sentence so we don't have a falling out cases) ...

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