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Re^2: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Feb 28, 2006 at 12:50 UTC ( #533329=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long
in thread Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long

Therefore my belief is that Parrot will not be used for running any widely used high-level languages.

Ditto.

Technically, there are distinct voids in the architecture of Parrot. Dan attempted to address these on several occasions with both discussion and mandate but was either dogged into submission by constant and ongoing counter-debate or just ignored.


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Re^3: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long
by Arunbear (Parson) on Oct 21, 2006 at 19:41 UTC
    What are those architectural voids? Have any of them been resolved in the time since this thread was posted?

      I'm afraid I stopped following the progress of Parrot around the time of my post above, so I have no idea what has happened in the interim and cannot comment on what if anything has changed or improved.

      As for what voids existed at that point in time, I would be hard pushed now to remember exactly what my concerns were. I do have a few references and emails from off-forum discussions I had at the time, but trying to rekindle my understanding of the issues now would be dificult. More to the point, most of the issues involved are a matter of history in the parrot forum archives and available to anyone with an interest.

      There are also much better qualified people than I to analyse and summerise the debates that took place back then that convinced me that things were not headed in the right direction. And people who have continued to follow the project that will be better placed to discuse what if any course corrections have taken place.

      Basically, "No comment".


      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      Lingua non convalesco, consenesco et abolesco. -- Rule 1 has a caveat! -- Who broke the cabal?
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
      What are those architectural voids? Have any of them been resolved in the time since this thread was posted?

      Well, I've never followed parrot development, but in the meanwhile Dan left; well actually that was well before the post you're responding to was written: you can read his rant^Wconsiderations here, it's a nice and very interesting reading anyway. However I don't even know what those architectural voids are, nor does he who hinted at them, but to answer your question, a wild guess based upon reasonable assumptions may yield 'no' as an answer. But what is important is the beast is still actively worked on and regular snapshots of it are released. So it's a lively project. Have faith!

        I don't even know what those architectural voids are, nor does he who hinted at them,

        I could mention register spill; interpreter == thread; lack of isolation between core and platform; monolithic memory management; runtime reentrancy. Choosing not to talk is not the same as not knowing.


        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        Lingua non convalesco, consenesco et abolesco. -- Rule 1 has a caveat! -- Who broke the cabal?
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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