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Re^3: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long

by dragonchild (Archbishop)
on Feb 28, 2006 at 15:41 UTC ( #533389=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long
in thread Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long

Personally I couldn't care less about Python running on Parrot, my main interest would be in Perl 6.

Actually, you do care. You just don't know you care. The biggest selling point about Parrot and the reason TPF has been funding Parrot development on and off for over 5 years has been that you can have all the majors compile down to PIR. Once you do that, then you have interlanguage operability that is only really available in .Net.

Imagine this - you are about to write a new web application. You really like Ruby-on-Rails and ActiveRecord, but you really need to use a huge legacy library written in Perl5 for accessing some random crap. Normally, you'd look longingly over at Ruby, then whip out CGI::Application, Class::DBI, and get to work.

Now, imagine that you can use ROR, AR, and your legacy library. Plus, write some linkage code in Perl6. THAT is what Parrot's all about.

My criteria for good software:
  1. Does it work?
  2. Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?
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Re^4: Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long
by tirwhan (Abbot) on Feb 28, 2006 at 15:55 UTC

    Oh, I get the general usefulness of a cross-language VM, and the desirability of having "one VM to rule them all". But to me personally it doesn't matter so much that we get a practically working Python implementation on top of Parrot any time soon. I've looked at Python three times over the last years and hated it every time, so I can safely say I won't use it for programming ever ("ever" being the most dangerous and error-prone time-period to invoke in any statement of course ;-). Similarly, if I come across a Python app/library and a slightly inferior Perl counterpart I'll use the Perl version because if something goes wrong or I need to change it I can burrow in myself.

    So while I understand that cross-language compatibility would be a very desirable thing for many people, I personally care more about Perl 6 being done. If we get a working Parrot which runs Perl 6 but only limps at Python I'd be happy and leave the people who are interested in Python to fix Parrot later (if that's possible).

    And about .Net, isn't it true that it only offer interlanguage operability by turning every language into a heavily obfuscated version of C#? Does anyone actually use multiple languages in a single project on .Net? I know Jython has been around for ages, does anyone actually use it for serious work?

    All dogma is stupid.

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