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Re: Downvoting Aging

by footpad (Monsignor)
on Feb 15, 2001 at 20:20 UTC ( #58631=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Downvoting Aging

I'm with Albannach; I really don't think the problem occurs often enough to warrant the effort required to implement either suggestion. Personally, I think the voting system already limits the effects of grudge votes.

Remember, those most likely to do this have a limited number of votes in a given day. While they could "attack" you over time, it takes a lot of effort to repeatedly downvote every single post over a period of several days. They'll eventually cool off or run out of messages. As an example, suppose you decided to take me down a peg, it would (as of this writing) take you 33 days to ding every one of my posts. During that time, I'd still be posting. You'd have to be pretty upset to keep a voting vendetta alive for that long.

Now, it's entirely possible that I could seriously ruffle the robes of a senior monk. They'd be able to knock me down a few pegs pretty quickly, but it would still take days for the effects to accumulate. Based on the personalities these folks have shown in their postings over the time I've been slouching about, I think that a) they wouldn't do this without a reason and b) they'd use other measures to put me in my place.

In any event, the rest of the community helps insulate you from this to a degree. If you participate, contribute, and pay attention, you'll inevitably attract enough votes to counter the effects of a single attacker or even a cabal. If the rest of the community likes your posts, they'll gain reputation. As Reputation grows beyond $NORM, the effects of a downvote are minimized.

Bad votes happen and you simply need to accept them and move on. If you get feedback, great. Learn from it; update as needed. If there's no feedback and you can't see how someone might have misinterpreted your post, shrug your shoulders and move on. If you're really concerned, ask in CB or privately /msg one of the senior monks. They may not know why you're being downvoted, but they might have a suggestion.

--f


Comment on Re: Downvoting Aging
Re: Re: Downvoting Aging
by magnus (Pilgrim) on Feb 16, 2001 at 14:14 UTC
    As Reputation grows beyond $NORM, the effects of a downvote are minimized.

    i think you are right here... i would expect that "younger" monks are more concerned with -- on their posts because it has a much greater impact on their XP... it can be frustrating to feel like your really beginning to be a part of PM, and then get down voted on a post that is many months old...

    it can feel like being punished for past mistakes...

    i just got downvoted for reply on my first post four months ago, when i still didn't have any idea how PM even worked... but i lost four XP because of it... this i think is the downside to no downvoting aging: past posts that weren't great get worse...

    maybe then i'll have to start all my nodes with: The Scarlet --

    having said that, though, i do agree that it doesn't happen enough, or has enough value, to warrent revising the XP system...

    magnus
      magnus said, "i just got downvoted for reply on my first post four months ago, when i still didn't have any idea how PM even worked... but i lost four XP because of it... this i think is the downside to no downvoting aging: past posts that weren't great get worse..."

      Look on the bright side, great nodes get greater.

      Build it and they will come.

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