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I post to Perlmonks anonymously...

by liverpole (Monsignor)
on Dec 04, 2006 at 03:28 UTC ( #587568=poll: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

vote on I post to Perlmonks anonymously...

Never
[bar] 227/59%
Only by mistake
[bar] 90/23%
When I've forgotten my password
[bar] 8/2%
If I'm afraid my post might cost me precious XP
[bar] 14/4%
If I'm being obnoxious, obstreperous, and rude
[bar] 8/2%
Several of the above
[bar] 14/4%
All the time, as I'm too lazy to login
[bar] 9/2%
All the time, as I've never registered
[bar] 8/2%
All the time (for some other reason than above)
[bar] 10/3%
388 total votes
Comment on I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 04, 2006 at 03:37 UTC
    Where's the, "When posting my employer's proprietary information" option? ;-)
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by gube (Parson) on Dec 04, 2006 at 04:44 UTC
    Only by mistake..I tried myself and after some minutes i didn't get ouput, i just open my favour help perlmonks and asked questions to my monks sometimes, after post the question i come to know i didn't login....
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by McDarren (Abbot) on Dec 04, 2006 at 05:47 UTC
    Never have, and probably never will (deliberately).
    Can't imagine any reason why I would want to :p
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 04, 2006 at 07:10 UTC
    I do it for some other reason.
      We know...you're just shy.
      My reasons weren't listed either.

      I want my posts to stand or fall on their own merits, not my personal reputation, for good or for ill.

      People sometimes risk falling into a 'cult of personality' mentality. Too often, I feel that the message gets overshadowed by the messenger. I'm not happy with this state of affairs.

      I post anonymously in an attempt to work around this quirk of the human psyche, and try to get a more honest reponse to my words. It's interesting and challenging; in my experience, anonymous posters are viewed as something of "second class citizens"; and I guess I've always been a fan of privacy, and of underdogs.

      I've noted that the exact same posting seems to generate a better response if made under a newly invented pseudonym than if posted as the "anonymous" user. I haven't figured out exactly why, but the social behaviour interests me...

        > the exact same posting seems to generate a better response if made under a newly invented pseudonym
        My experience on USENET is that a psuedonym that looks like a real name (Kurt Wallich or Crowder Thompson) gets more respect than an obvious psuedonym (LargeSpaceMonkey or Gravedigger) which still get more respect than psuedonyms that are unpronounceable or illegible (gR9jmlcrq or §¥ww«)

        throop

        I'm not sure this is a bad thing. Often the messenger is part of the message. For example, if George "Dubya" Bush and Hillary Clinton both said "The war in Iraq is going well," different people would find that news more believable from one than the other. Or, even better, if they both said "We'll be out of Iraq soon," well, the interpretations of how that would happen would be vastly different. Based on the messenger.

        Closer to home, if someone posted something controversial about Perl 6, is it a bad thing that we take it seriously when posted by (among others) Ovid or TheDamian or TimToady, but with a grain of salt if posted by a known troll (in the spirit of not provoking a flamewar, I'll let the reader decide who they think is a known troll rather than sharing my opinions on who would fall under that category as it's not really relevant who, in particular, it is). Extend that a bit more, and we look at Anonymous Monks. These are treated with suspicion by many (myself included) just because there is an absence of credibility. Not just poor credibility, but a complete lack. There is no context to place the message against to help decipher how to interpret the words.

        As for the newly invented pseudonym, there are a couple factors here. First is the possibility of a history, thus context, being created. Second, the optimism that a new pseudonym is actually not only a new member, but has gone through the effort to "officially" join the club and be included, affords them a bit of leeway on the credibility, even if it's just the context of "I joined your group and am attempting to contribute to it." There is a presumed level of commitment that grows as the use of that pseudonym shows more posts, or even more time in the CB.

        If you're at work, and someone comes up to you to tell you you're fired, isn't important that you know who this person is when deciding how to react? e.g., your immediate manager, their manager, the department clown, someone you've never met, or someone with a bag over their head?

        People sometimes risk falling into a 'cult of personality' mentality. Too often, I feel that the message gets overshadowed by the messenger. I'm not happy with this state of affairs.
        Yep you're right! For some proof to back up your claim, Just look at how some of the later more intelligent questions from Nik and Win were handled. Their reputation ruined any chance of them ever getting a polite and correct answer.

        Of course this is posted anon to protect my XP. Now if only I had configured a proxy server to hide my real IP so no one could guess who I am.

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by chargrill (Parson) on Dec 04, 2006 at 07:12 UTC

    I'm going to have to go with "Never" on this. I'm not afraid to stand behind my words, as stupid and misinformed as they sometimes are. ;-)

    Update: Oh, also I have enough other passwords to remember IRL so I just generally have the "save me a permanent cookie, cowboy" checkbox ticked if ever I should accidentally become logged out.



    --chargrill
    s**lil*; $*=join'',sort split q**; s;.*;grr; &&s+(.(.)).+$2$1+; $; = qq-$_-;s,.*,ahc,;$,.=chop for split q,,,reverse;print for($,,$;,$*,$/)
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by BUU (Prior) on Dec 04, 2006 at 08:05 UTC
    Isn't this poll sort of biased towards people who can actually vote? Say.. those who can log in?

      Everyone can vote, you don’t need an account for the purpose.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by grinder (Bishop) on Dec 04, 2006 at 08:57 UTC

    I use the green theme with a few personal CSS tweaks. Using any theme other than the default means that it's just about impossible to post a message without logging in... because everything looks different! Which means, AFAICR, I've never posted anonymously.

    • another intruder with the mooring in the heart of the Perl

      Using any theme other than the default means that it's just about impossible to post a message without logging in...

      My web browser is configured to ignore colors specified by websites, so the difference is less obvious. I still almost always remember to log in, because if you're not logged in there's a login form on the page, but I've been known to forget on occasion.

      And no, I'm not going to subject myself to the arbitrary aesthetic whims of every website I ever visit just so I'll notice more easily if I'm not logged into Perlmonks. I haven't surfed the web with site-specified colors enabled (well, not on anything resembling a regular basis at any rate) since approximately 1998. Too many webmasters have terrible tastes in colors.


      Sanity? Oh, yeah, I've got all kinds of sanity. In fact, I've developed whole new kinds of sanity. You can just call me "Mister Sanity". Why, I've got so much sanity it's driving me crazy.

      I blab so much in the cb that when I'm not logged in, I always notice if from the missing talk bar.

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by xiaoyafeng (Chaplain) on Dec 04, 2006 at 09:17 UTC
    What is "XP"?
      An inferior sort of OS X.

      </macsnobbery>

      --
      tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
      And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
      - Chick McGee

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by zentara (Archbishop) on Dec 04, 2006 at 11:54 UTC
    When I'm looking at porn on an adjacent tab.

    I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by liverpole (Monsignor) on Dec 04, 2006 at 12:12 UTC
    By mistake, twice.  They were here and here.

    I was mostly curious about people who login anonymously because they don't want to be associated with their words.  It must be a strange feeling to believe in something strongly enough to say it, but not strongly enough to "take credit" for it.

    And it's true that you can't predict how people will react to what you've written.  One thing Perlmonks has taught me is to pause and consider carefully before writing the first thing that comes to mind, especially in response to something that at first glance appears inflammatory or provoking.  When I'm not sure how to respond to something, I often find it wisest to say nothing at all.


    s''(q.S:$/9=(T1';s;(..)(..);$..=substr+crypt($1,$2),2,3;eg;print$..$/

      Some folks post anonymously because they don't want their coworkers to know that they're just learning it as they go! :)

        I would have to say that we are all learning as we go. Some of us are learning at different levels no doubt but I have seen some sharp people asking questions on Perl Monks.

        In fact I will admit right here in front of everyone, I have never successfully installed anything from CPAN. Both times I have tried the *$%#(*& module wouldn't build. Of course except for the Excel and XML modules I've never actually needed anything off CPAN. In the Excel case I just did it in VBA (ugh). I've never had time to futz with it at work, and I have different interests after work. That is changing now, but CPAN is my boogey man.

        Laugh all you want, I feel so much more humble now; soon I will try again (when I am not under a deadline) and ask my fellow monks what I am doing wrong if it doesn't work...

        Update: (VBA is Visual Basic for Applications, it is used to control the Office Applications)
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by margulies (Friar) on Dec 04, 2006 at 13:13 UTC
    When i want to say bad things about some people.

    Well, that never happened, but who knows....
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 04, 2006 at 13:35 UTC
    I never post anonymously!

      Darnit, you beat me to that joke. I was even going to post my first-ever anonymous post just to say that.

      print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
      - apotheon
      CopyWrite Chad Perrin

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by tbone1 (Monsignor) on Dec 04, 2006 at 13:40 UTC
    To hide from the grues.

    --
    tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
    And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
    - Chick McGee

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by robot_tourist (Hermit) on Dec 04, 2006 at 14:23 UTC

    permanent cookie ftw!

    How can you feel when you're made of steel? I am made of steel. I am the Robot Tourist.
    Robot Tourist, by Ten Benson

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by ambrus (Abbot) on Dec 04, 2006 at 17:18 UTC

    Always.

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Old_Gray_Bear (Bishop) on Dec 04, 2006 at 20:37 UTC
    I don't post anonymously, I post under my nom-de-hack.

    Seriously, long long ago I decided that if I didn't have the intestinal fortitude (guts) to stand behind my words, then there was something wrong with what I had written. So, I do a lot of 'write a draft and file it', and then come back and re-read my words thirty minutes later. If I still feel that way, then I send it. (This policy is much harder to adhere to in oral conversation. I have developed the idiom: "OK, I'll take that under advisement" to cover the situation. That way I get some think-time and I don't stick my foot in my mouth quite so often.)

    ----
    I Go Back to Sleep, Now.

    OGB

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by greenFox (Vicar) on Dec 04, 2006 at 23:21 UTC

    It was only once and I was being "obnoxious, obstreperous, and rude" (or at least one of the three). Unfortunately I can't remember the node so it can be happily downvoted but feel free to take it out on this one :-)

    --
    Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. -Basho

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by sgt (Chaplain) on Dec 04, 2006 at 23:23 UTC

    well actually I did post anonymously for a few months (a couple years maybe)...I had lost my login and could not remember it, and one day decided to go for another...total lazy I guess

    --stephan

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Andrew_Levenson (Hermit) on Dec 05, 2006 at 03:17 UTC
    ...with a paper bag over my head for added effect.
    $\=" ";$u=0;$w=0;x(qw/4A 16 07 86/);sub x{while(@_){$u**=$w?$w:$#_; print map{$w<$u?chr(hex shift):chr(hex reverse(shift))}$_;$w+=length%2 +!=1?-1:1}}
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by kudra (Vicar) on Dec 05, 2006 at 09:08 UTC
    I've done it from work, when I had a question which I really needed an answer to quickly (the same circumstances under which I will IRC from work).

    I prefer not to log in to websites from the office because I find I get distracted if I have access to all the things that come with an account. For instance, with PerlMonks I might start reading the chatterbox or adding comments to polls...

      I prefer not to log in to websites from the office because I find I get distracted if I have access to all the things that come with an account. For instance, with PerlMonks I might start reading the chatterbox or adding comments to polls...

      You can do both of those as an AM. On the other hand, if you log in, you can hide the chatterbox with /chatteroff and turn off the poll nodelet.

Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by wulvrine (Friar) on Dec 05, 2006 at 13:21 UTC
    Why create an account of not to use it. Heck the username/pw are 'remembered' so it is just the button click that I'd be saving. I'm a lazy engineer (good thing!) but not THAT lazy!

    s&&VALKYRIE &&& print $_^q|!4 =+;' *|
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by tye (Cardinal) on Dec 05, 2006 at 17:00 UTC

    ... when I post my ViAnGaRa spams.

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Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by mk. (Friar) on Dec 06, 2006 at 13:11 UTC
    never; i'm actually too lazy to logout.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    *women.pm
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by wjw (Deacon) on Dec 06, 2006 at 17:50 UTC
    Only by mistake, as I believe anonymity is cumulative and I am scared silly of simply dis-appearing into the great void of white noise.

    ...the majority is always wrong, and always the last to know about it...

      My very first post ever was anonymous. It garnered more XP than any other post I've ever made, but am I bitter?

      Yes, I am, a bit. :)

      This was it, and why anyone upvoted that abomination is beyond me :S
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by shmem (Canon) on Dec 07, 2006 at 00:51 UTC
    Never; see my sig. I won't join the Anonymous Monk crowd.

    Before posting, I always check it's me who's doing it.. ;-)

    _($_=" "x(1<<5)."?\n".q·/)Oo.  G°\        /
                                  /\_¯/(q    /
    ----------------------------  \__(m.====·.(_("always off the crowd"))."·
    ");sub _{s./.($e="'Itrs `mnsgdq Gdbj O`qkdq")=~y/"-y/#-z/;$e.e && print}
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by OfficeLinebacker (Chaplain) on Dec 07, 2006 at 16:54 UTC
    Never--that's what bookmarks and cookies are for, right?

    I like computer programming because it's like Legos for the mind.
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Elliott (Pilgrim) on Dec 07, 2006 at 16:56 UTC
    I have no idea whatever of my password. As long as I log on from this computer it's fine. If I log on from home or from another computer in the office it'll be anonymous.
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by swampyankee (Parson) on Dec 07, 2006 at 20:44 UTC

    Only when I know an attempt at humor may be offensive. I do not, for example, want to find out whether planetscape's fiery exhalations produce 3d or 4th degree burns.

    emc

    At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation.

    —Igor Sikorsky, reported in AOPA Pilot magazine February 2003.

      I would just like to assure you that I have a very fine degree of control over my fiery breath, and toastings can range from the lightest (suitable for marshmallows) all the way to complete incineration.

      HTH,

      planetscape
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by syphilis (Canon) on Dec 08, 2006 at 09:18 UTC
    I never post anonymously !!

    If I'm not prepared to face the consequences of what I'm about to post .... then I has another drink, first.

    Cheers,
    Rob
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 13, 2006 at 18:09 UTC
    All the time, I have to.
Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Tux (Monsignor) on Jan 02, 2007 at 14:29 UTC
    * Only when my browser was restarted and forgot to log me on automatically
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Re: I post to Perlmonks anonymously...
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 28, 2008 at 08:02 UTC
    Because my dog ate all my password sticky notes (they smelled like beer)

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