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Re^3: perlBB project

by jZed (Prior)
on Jan 17, 2007 at 20:16 UTC ( #595123=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: perlBB project
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I don't know anything about YaBB, but I find your rant against it less than convincing. There are a number of modules (mine among them) which have horrible ugly, stupid, repetitive code in them. That doesn't *necessarily* mean that they don't mostly function as they should. Your rant was published almost 3 years ago and YaBB has aparently been a live project in that time ... I dunno if they improved the code you complained about, but they well might have. I also find your argument about using a usenetish approach rather than a web approach to be an example of "coder thinking about a non-coder issue". Yes, sure usenet can do anything web can do better ... technically. But that doesn't mean it's the same experience from the user's viewpoint. Anyway, nothing personal, your rant on your pet peeves just provoked this rant on my pet peeves. :-)


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Re^4: perlBB project
by autarch (Hermit) on Jan 18, 2007 at 17:39 UTC
    I just took a look at the code, and it's still rather horrible. No strict or warnings, no modules, long if/else branches, html embedded throughout the code, and a lot of Perl4-looking crap.
      I believe you and DrHyde that the code sucks. I'm glad I don't have to maintain it (maintaining my own bad code is bad enough). I was writing more about what I find useful in a critique of a module. Having some bad code three years ago is different from still having bad code now. Having bad code is (sometimes) different from having dysfunctional code. When I hear someone as experienced as Barbie say they've used the module for a long time, I get a mixed picture. Critiques such as "html embedded throughout the code" tell me I definitely don't want to have to extend or maintain the sucker, but don't tell me whether the thing works or whether it would be useful in specific contexts.

        The code could definitely do with an overhaul, but in terms of it's functionality and usability, it does pretty well. My thought for mentioning it, was that it may be more worth improving the YaBB code and extending it with any features that might be missing. phpBB already has a big market share and starting from scratch with something like this would be no mean feat.

        I started to write my own bulletin board system, but quickly realised that to do it properly would take far too long. YaBB offers all the public facing features I wanted and the admin side isn't too bad to master. In time I may supply patches to improve the codebase, but for the moment it does the job I wanted it to.

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        Barbie | Birmingham Perl Mongers user group | http://birmingham.pm.org/

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