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Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.

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Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by Joost (Canon) on Apr 06, 2007 at 13:22 UTC
    That's not news, that's a review of Richard Stallman. The man is an idealist and he's found a way of living up to his own standards. You might not be willing or able to do that but he at least shows that it's possible.

    What do you mean, your Nvidia card doesn't work with them? Nor your cell phone link (You shouldn't be using one. See above). Nor your photoprinter. Nor your scanner. Nor your home wifi or cable modem. Hmm. I wonder how he copes?
    For what it's worth, my nvidia card works fine with the GPL'd drivers, except for 3D acceleration, which you generally don't need to make a living as a programmer, my HP scanner/photoprinter has official GPL'd drivers from HP and my WIFI/adsl modem runs linux.

    I'm not going into the whole "but we can't make money selling free software" strawman. Most programmers don't make money selling software; they make get paid for making software. Plenty of people do get paid for writing / supporting free software.

Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by zentara (Archbishop) on Apr 06, 2007 at 11:40 UTC
    Is the "HeHigh" in the node title a typo, or a subtle hint about Stallman? :-) Personally I like the way he thinks, a minimalist, like myself. He's a purist and Utopian idealist; and like poetry, it isn't needed in the real world, but it does encourage our dreams of a better world, where we are not slaves to the economic system.

    I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum
Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Apr 06, 2007 at 17:43 UTC
Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by wazoox (Prior) on Apr 08, 2007 at 14:12 UTC
    You doesn't seem to know the difference between free (as beer) software and free (as speech) software. That's unfortunate, and that's making a very poor troll indeed. By the way, aren't you using Perl? Do you know Perl is free software?
Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by shmem (Chancellor) on May 25, 2007 at 17:37 UTC
    He doesn't use a mobile phone, or mp3 player because they contain proprietory software. He didn't mention whether he has a landline phone. Or a television, or a microwave oven, or a washing machine or dishwasher. He did advise not buying a house or a car or having kids because they all cost money. What about a digital stills or video camera? Hey. If you don't have kids there's no memories worth keeping for prosterity.

    Yeah, whatever.

    I haven't been there, have you? Care to provide a transcript or a link to an audio file which would undermine your ruthless claims? I could easily make up something like "And Thusly Spake Stallman At <insert place here>". And even if he did give lousy or not so lousy advice, what about that? Get over it. You ought to be more concerned about Free Speech and The Bill Of Rights, which are seriously threatened anywhere in "the free western world", than about Stallman's ideas. Or face the perspective that even your ideas might one day be weighted solely on their commercial worthiness, or prosecuted on the basis of being "a threat to free interchange of goods" (for some value of good).

    Now get out of my dreams.

    --shmem

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Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by Anonymous Monk on May 19, 2007 at 22:32 UTC
    > So, no software should ever cost money huh I don't think that free means "gratis", but rather "free as in freedom" when Dr. Stallman speaks of "free software". /Anders Ekstrand
Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 05, 2007 at 21:05 UTC
    Yes you CAN make money with a free software dev model: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1836385,00.asp
Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by girarde (Hermit) on May 24, 2007 at 20:06 UTC
    Richard Stallman seems to think that nobody should get paid for intellectual work except on commission, or if they happen to sell physical objects that contain the work.

    Mr. Stallman has demonstrated that he can make a living while adhering to his principles. It's a good question whether anybody else can make a living while adhering to those principles.

      Well, I've been working as a software developer for about 11 years now. I spent the first 8 of those years working as an employee for an internet/web development company. The last 3 years I've been working as a freelance developer.

      I've always been paid just to make/plan/design software. Some free/open source software, some for-sale products, but mostly custom software for use by a specific client (project ranging from a day's work to about two years).

      In all those years I've never been paid based on sales, I've just been paid based on work (i.e. monthly pay, billable hours or fixed-price delivery). As far as I know that's typical here (in the Netherlands).

      I'm not saying you can't get paid more if you can get another arrangement. One point I'm trying to make is that many programmers do get paid "on commission". The other point is that there is a hell of a lot of custom software that would (given market forces really would work the way I was taught in high school :-) ) cost about the same regardless of licence.

        My point is not that Mr. Stallman pursues the model he does. My point is that he seeks to prevent anyone from using another model. He thinks that proprietary software is wrong and that copyright and patent laws should not protect it. Unless I have badly misread much of his writing.
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Re: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.
by Anonymous Monk on May 24, 2007 at 12:36 UTC
    Advisor's advise by dispensing advice, you Pilosocereus royenii

      Advisor's advise by dispensing advice

      *giggle* I almost feel bad:

      Advisors advise by dispensing advice.

      Advisor's advise by dispensing advice, you Pilosocereus royenii

      Hey, Anonymonk, how 'bout a Google link?

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