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Re^3: A Level Playing Field

by Dominus (Parson)
on Apr 13, 2007 at 19:50 UTC ( #609995=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: A Level Playing Field
in thread A Level Playing Field

Shortly after you posted this, I read the articles you pointed to, and then I read the two books referred to in the National Review article, by Peters and by Kamen.

My conclusion from reading those books was that you hadn't read them yourself, that you didn't know what you were talking about, and that you were completely full of shit.

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Re^4: A Level Playing Field
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Apr 13, 2007 at 21:54 UTC
Re^4: A Level Playing Field
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 16, 2007 at 22:30 UTC
    Oh, come on Dominus - tell us how you really feel. And then tell us why you bother to respond to something over a year later.
      > tell us why you bother to respond to something over a year later.

      Thanks for asking. I had meant to make a longer and more substantive response after reading the books, when the details were fresh in my mind. By then the discussion was already rather stale, and I had other things to do.

      But I thought there might be some value in pointing out, even a year later, that the books alluded to did not make the point that the OP claimed that they did.

      It might also be worth remembering the next time Tanktalus appears to back up some strange-sounding assertion with a reputable source: he might be telling the truth, or, he might be waving around some book he hasn't read, using it as a club to bludgeon other people's arguments, without having any idea what it actually says, as he did in this thread. Normally when we have discussions we assume good faith and intellectual honesty, and that didn't happen here.

      I suppose this is now off-topic, so I will abandon the thread.

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[marinersk]: choroba++
[choroba]: it's a long running test, so it's normally skipped unless an env var is set
[choroba]: nobody has been bothered to set the variable in the last 3 years
[marinersk]: sub newtest{my $expected_result = &target('foo'); my $actual_result = &target('foo'); if ($actual_result eq $expected_result) { &tdd_success(); } else { &tdd_fail(); } } # Test works after three years!
[choroba]: or nobody bothered...
[choroba]: The problem was bigger, as the test tried to call a method that didn't exist anymore
[marinersk]: :: ducking ::
[choroba]: because, someone renamed the method, but didn't notice it was used in the test, as the test was skipped
[marinersk]: Well, if the method doesn't exist, it would be hard to pass the test.
[choroba]: later, someone removed the new method, as all its usage places were safe, but didn't notice the test still used the old name

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