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Re^3: what would you like to see in perl5.12?

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Aug 21, 2007 at 06:27 UTC ( #634013=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: what would you like to see in perl5.12?
in thread what would you like to see in perl5.12?

The really simple one of checking what is going on in the hash when debugging.

It would be even better if the formatting was a little more sophisticated than just a space separated list. Say key1:value1 key2:value2 key3:value3, but that's a nicety.

Just as with the default interpolation of hashes in Perl 6, if you need more sophisticated layout, sorting etc. then it's back to rolling your own or using a dumper, but sometimes you just want a quick check. Currently I would use the "@{[ %hash ]}", but a simpler syntax would be good if it could be made to work.

No biggy, but the thought crossed my mind.


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