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Re: History now influences voting

by gregor42 (Parson)
on Dec 23, 2007 at 15:38 UTC ( #658780=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to History now influences voting

I just cast my very last -- ever and I spent it on this node.

Obviously I'm just as in the minority now as when I complained about the added XP levels...

IMHO this is a mistake, just as that was.

The XP 'game' we play here is taken entirely too seriously by half and needs to be played DOWN, not played UP.

I am forced to ask the question : was the problem that we are attempting to solve so big as to warrant messing with the status quo? And WHAT pray-tell is that problem exactly?

It sounds to me like the problem is "personality-voting".

So is it worth it to call out the Thought Police in order to make that go away?

I signed in this morning & got a new notice saying I had x# of down-votes left - with a link explaining this new sarcasm. Apparently this is an elbow to the ribs letting me know that I've been identified as a negative-nancy and that if I dont start a-changin' my ways to the New Way then I'm going to be punished.

So much for my votes being my own to do with as I please.

So no more --'s from me for now on.

No more --'s nor responses to Trolls - All Will Be Considered.

No more --'s from me for rudely phrased knee-jerk reaction nodes to n00bs trying to learn the language that say "RTFM", or "Learn how to phrase a question" or "Use Super Search" - or anything else that maybe should have been said in the CB instead of writing a repetitive elitist node. No - these are always popular - usually more popular that someone trying to (God-forbid) Learn Perl. Therefore my cutting against the popular grain in this way is now deemed as "disruptive to our community".

The active pronoun there being "our".

This was a meritocracy. Now Power is being consolidated in who & what was considered popular - with no voice for derision without overt punishment.

The message you have sent with this is that negative votes are meaningless and risky behavior, so don't use them anymore.

I liked it better when there was an end in sight for the XP game. Everyone used to top off as a Saint right about the time when you shouldn't need the pecking order anymore. Now it is arguably the primary motivation here - rather than Perl itself.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. You need to divorce your motivations from your results. Perlmonks wasn't broken. Now it is. If you keep making these changes in order to deal with increasingly unimportant 'social-issues' that have nothing to do with anything but a popularity contest - you will find yourself on a slippery slope leading down to a totally inwardly facing cabal of sycophants.

It's a shame. This site has been a useful Seat of Learning for so long. I would hate to see it ruined by artificially induced politics.

Wait! This isn't a Parachute, this is a Backpack!

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Re^2: History now influences voting
by shmem (Canon) on Dec 23, 2007 at 16:03 UTC
    If up-voted your post for drawing attention to some good points.

    But wait...

    The XP 'game' we play here is taken entirely too seriously by half and needs to be played DOWN, not played UP.


    So no more --'s from me for now on.

    Er, what? Aren't you taking this game way too serious here?

    Not downvoting a troll's post is good. The Right Thing To Do is ignoring them.

    It's a shame. This site has been a useful Seat of Learning for so long. I would hate to see it ruined by artificially induced politics.

    A game is a game is a game. This site won't be ruined just because a playful nature is tweaking the rules to make the game more interesting. There are way too much witty people here, way too much interesting content, and PerlMonks is well established as a resource of thoughtful code considering and help with all things perl.


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[stevieb]: Marshall: no. I commented on the thread yesterday. Visual Studio updates the tags ok, but corrupts the exe
[stevieb]: I advised the OP that a possible workaround would be to add a version function/flag that displays the required copyright/license info instead
[Marshall]: Darn! I'll look at the thread. Must not be updatinga byte count somewhere. The .exe format is a complex critter.
[stevieb]: that way, it's still "hard coded" into the exe at least, despite not being visible via Properties
[Marshall]: I also looked into PerlApp from Active State, but they don't sell their Dev Kit independent of a very expensive ($1,200) per year license anymore.
[Corion]: I would assume that the PE format hasn't changed that much since the days of yore, but it seems that I would be wrong in that assumption
[Marshall]: When I bought my copy 15+ years ago, it was just a couple hundred bucks.
[Marshall]: I looked at MS specs for PE format and I didn't see any changes in last decade, but evidenly that would be wrong.

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