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Re: "Chuck Norris"-ing code

by toolic (Chancellor)
on Aug 05, 2008 at 01:51 UTC ( #702202=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to "Chuck Norris"-ing code

Let me get this straight. You have clients who are willing to pay you not to do anything? Wouldn't they be considered ideal clients :)


Comment on Re: "Chuck Norris"-ing code
Re^2: "Chuck Norris"-ing code
by merlyn (Sage) on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:39 UTC
    Only if we were in this just for the money. But I have a natural desire to actually help people, and make the world a better place as a justification for getting up each morning. All the money in the world can't replace that.
Re^2: "Chuck Norris"-ing code
by Your Mother (Canon) on Aug 05, 2008 at 06:26 UTC

    What merlyn said + it can eat away at your self-esteem if you do excellent work for a client and see it thrown away in the surreal but not entirely uncommon idiom brian_d_foy describes. Being paid to do nothing, or even being paid to do a bad job in spite of offering good work instead, is not good for one's psychology. These kinds of clients should be avoided if you can't massage them, as it were, out of that tack.

      But it's not being paid to do nothing... Obviously the customer expects you to work. They expect to see you looking at code, they might even expect to see milestones being reached. What the customer does not want is anything in production to be changed. I've worked under these conditions, and what your mother says about psychology is an understatement. This sort of work can make you seriously depressed, even if the money is great. Perhaps there are certain kinds of people who can take this, but I won't work under those conditions again, whatever the money.


      - Boldra
Re^2: "Chuck Norris"-ing code
by Anonymous Monk on Aug 07, 2008 at 19:36 UTC
    Plus, if they decide to blame you, your reputation is on the line.
Re^2: "Chuck Norris"-ing code
by wol (Hermit) on Aug 12, 2008 at 10:44 UTC
    I once found myself in a curious and not entirely dissimilar situation - the client was essentially paying a retainer to my employer to make sure I was available to do something for them asap if they thought of anything they needed (the product was in the final run-up to the final release).

    The way the arrangement was worded meant that the client only paid for the hours I wasn't doing anything else that benefitted my employer. As soon as I started doing some analysis for another tender we were making, for example, the client stopped paying.

    Consequently, being an ethical kind of person, I diligently earnt money for my bosses by doing crosswords, figuring out how to do sudoku, writing a program to do sudoku for me, reading books (some technical, most not) learning ant (vile), learning perl (much much nicer), and painting my front room (with the laptop under the dust covers, and the email alert sound turned right up).

    Sadly, the paint we'd chosen didn't cover very well, so it took four coats. But I was probably the best paid decorator on the planet for a couple of days.

    And when that contract finally ended, I resigned and went elsewhere, partly because they were being bought out by a company that wanted to take them in a completely different direction, and partly because I wanted to actually change something again...

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