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(dws)Re: The fickleness of Reputation

by dws (Chancellor)
on Apr 06, 2001 at 05:42 UTC ( #70373=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to The fickleness of Reputation

Does anybody else have a problem with reputation of nodes translating into experience, and thereby an indication of Perl expertise? Or am I just being anal?

Well, if you put it that way... :)

Seriously: There are several reasons -- aside from the content of the node -- why a node's reputation isn't a valid reflection on its value:

  1. Nodes have different values to different people. What you find vote-worthy, others might not.
  2. Replies that get posted late in a discussion have fewer eyeballs going over them, and thus have less of a chance of garnering votes. There are some great nodes that were posted weeks or months after a discussion was over.
  3. Replies that happen deep into a discussion are often overlooked by people who haven't taken the trouble to figure out what Some notes below your chosen depth have not been shown here means. (See here for one explanation.)
  4. Once a discussion goes on for a while, and some good answers have been posted, people might just give up on the thread, believing that it's been well mined out. I catch myself losting interest in some threads once they descend into Perl golf.
  5. It may be the case (i.e., here's a hypothesis) that votes from East Coast monks get used up earlier in the day, and aren't available for the many excellent posts made by West Coast monks.
  6. Etc., etc. (See jcwren's post below for more good reasons.)

The point is, in general, the number of votes that a node gets is not a great reflection of a node's "value". And I don't think anyone is highly motivated to try to make the situation "fair", at least not once they've thought through the implications.

But life here is more interesting at the edges. Nodes that gather high scores (Best Nodes)or negative scores (Worst Nodes) are worthy of study, not so much for the value of the node (though many of the highly ranked ones are indeed quite good), but as a read on the "pulse" of the monestary, and for tips on which styles of writing and rhetoric people respond to.


Comment on (dws)Re: The fickleness of Reputation
Re: (dws)Re: The fickleness of Reputation
by PsychoSpunk (Hermit) on Apr 06, 2001 at 20:26 UTC
    This has been a topic of discussion on another forum that I participate on. We don't have an XP system or a rep system, but it is generally accepted that there are some all time posts.

    Recently, we had a discussion about asynchronous communication (which is of course the style of any online forum) which was the result of two or three really good posts that garnered no discussion. After a week and a half went by, the original poster followed up with a statement to the effect that she was unhappy that the posts hadn't generated the amount of discussion that could be expected of the topic.

    It was noted that the beauty of the forum, and all online forums is that when people are too busy, they won't necessarily just drop the post, but make mental, physical, or digital note of the post (like the Personal Nodelet), and get back to it when they have a) more time or b) something to contirbute.

    A month ago, I kept getting "random" XP, and while I can guess some of it, I know some more was probably related to the upvoting of old posts that provided insight, solution, or possibly another approach to a problem.

    Lexicon commented to me that he gets to vote 6 days worth of votes over his 5 day workweek (see his location to figure out how he accomplishes it). I don't know that the timezone matters too much, because I notice that at the end of the workday, I still have a dozen votes to spare, usually.

    So, while your points are valid in an Mtv generation world, I think that with experience (of using the monastery), old nodes get mined for information and get voted well after the fact. I know some nodes probably do suffer from the Mtv style voting (you mean that node exists??? But it's not on Newest Nodes!), it still can't explain the "random" XP that comes up in the XP nodelet every once in a while.

    ALL HAIL BRAK!!!

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