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Re: Right answers for the right people

by Mutant (Priest)
on Aug 28, 2008 at 08:37 UTC ( #707412=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Right answers for the right people

I agree. I don't think there's any point in shielding people from the truth, but at the same time, there's no point in scaring people off when you can easily avoid it. A better answer to the question might've been:

"The ususal way is to use the perl debugger (point to PODs), but there are graphical altneratives available (preferably point to those)."
I think this highlights a small attitude in the Perl community along the lines of "you're not a *real* developer unless you use vim / *NIX / CLI, etc". Just to emphasise, I do think this is a *small* problem, but not an insignificant one, not least because some of the "higher ups" in the community can sometimes give this impression (even if it's not intentional).

Maybe vim + CLI works for you, but a huge amount of developers prefer to work in a fully functional IDE these days.

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[choroba]: I mean, the slides are, but not the makefile with scripts to create them
[Corion]: haukex: I've only now arrived at that revelation ;)
[Corion]: choroba: I use spod5, which also has that support, and also implements its own kinda-make stuff
[haukex]: But that module I just linked to assumes that most verbatim blocks are runnable code, I have other modules where that's not the case, so there I just copy-and-paste the synopsis into the author tests...
[haukex]: not the most efficient, but then again, I don't have that many modules on CPAN :-)
[Corion]: haukex: Yes, but if it's only supposed to run on my machine, I can be far more liberal with how I extract the code etc.
[Corion]: haukex: Yes - I see the benefit of using Dist::Zilla for people with 150+ modules on CPAN, but I don't see it for myself, and I'm always put off from contributing to such modules because they require a lot of toolchain setup that I don't want to ...
[Corion]: ... spend time on if I only want to provide a short patch
[haukex]: Corion: Yes exactly, in the author tests I don't worry about portability as much, I also don't list the author tests' dependencies in Makefile.PL
[haukex]: I figure someone who wants to contribute will know how to install the missing modules ;-) Not the nicest way to go but I don't think many people are using my modules yet

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