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Re (tilly) 1: At what rate are YOU progressing?

by tilly (Archbishop)
on May 03, 2001 at 08:06 UTC ( #77572=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to At what rate are YOU progressing?

While I was mentioned directly, I don't know what I can realistically add that hasn't been said.

Like merlyn I don't have a lot of the usual time-wasters.

Like Dominus I like being engaged in whatever I am doing.

Unlike both I don't have decades of programming experience. It still is under 4 years, and I have a lot of gaps. (That I am trying to fill in as I go, but by the time I hit some of the big ones, I am sure that progress will create others.)

Now for my weird advice, read Re (tilly) 1: Discipline, then RE (tilly) 3: On elegant coding... and you should get a good insight into what my basic learning strategy is. I have direct evidence that the first works for other people. I have no evidence that the second is how others work. I know that neither is something that most people would consider trying.

And finally a controversial question. Talent or effort? I don't know. I have seen plenty of stories of people who demonstrate that it is supposedly talent. I am positive that there are plenty of people who would add me as yet another example. Yet after I look around from reading yet another book, considering another opinion, writing more code, it sure feels like effort. And sure I have only been programming a short time. But I started with years of experience in math. I didn't have to learn the basics of efficiency, recursion, breaking problems up or paying attention to detail. I started programming with those skills more highly developed than most veterans of programming.

If I thought that anything real was known about nature vs nurture and talent, I would probably go out and do some research on this question. But the fragments that I saw the last time I got curious did not inspire confidence. Perhaps after they have a while to analyze the human genome, I will take a peek to see what the orthodoxy turns out to be...

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[marto]: One of the main train stations is right across the road, so handy from that perspective, and there are some nice hotels in the area, but it's not great after dark, or sometimes during the day to be honest
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[marto]: LanX: I appreciate that, it's honestly a difficult thing, a fine balance

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