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Re: Reasons for downvoting

by gregor42 (Parson)
on May 29, 2001 at 18:38 UTC ( #83947=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Reasons for downvoting

My $1/50 :

I cast downvotes for the following reasons:

  • If a question is asked without any effort put towards trying to find the answer
  • If a question is posted with a un-informative node name (e.g. "HELP! PLEASE!")
  • If an answer is given that doesn't work
  • If an answer is not given, just criticism or abuse
  • If someone is a snotty bastard for no apparent reason & the content value doesn't outweigh how annoying they are
  • If an entire node is written in 37337 5cr1p7
  • If a node is a 'fluff node' intended just to garnish that one extra vote you needed to get to n XP
  • If the node is a joke node & isn't funny (but I haven't done this yet so...)

Personality voting is counter-productive towards the value of the perlmonks site in general. It's like when the Communists came to power in China & Mao started burning all of the works of Confucious. You're trashing a RESOURCE. For the most part the people here are informative & try to be helpful. Don't give them crap unless they deserve it and then only on the point where they deserve it.

I for one, downvoted merlyn's posting about who was on-line when he was personality-downvoted. Not because I don't agree that there's a problem, but the CB is the right place to express that & a node that lists suspects is a waste of a node. But that's the ONLY time I've EVER had reason to downvote Merlyn-sama. I've probably upvoted him more than anyone else, just from the sheer volume of good postings of his that I have read & learned from.

It does however bug me to see Monks like Merlyn & Tilly actually getting upset about the fluctuations in their XP. Sure it's a virtual slap in the face, but it's not like it changes your status AT ALL. Nor does it change how others percieve you on this site or otherwise. It just seems unimportant. IMHO...



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Comment on Re: Reasons for downvoting
wise downvoting ?
by arhuman (Vicar) on May 29, 2001 at 19:47 UTC
    Just my 0.33Euro thought ;-)

    I globally aggree with your point of view, most the reasons you give to downvote seem legit to me :
    • If a question is asked without any effort put towards trying to find the answer
    • If an answer is given that doesn't work
    • If an answer is not given, just criticism or abuse
    • If someone is a snotty bastard for no apparent reason & the content value doesn't outweigh how annoying they are
    I understand that some may bother you (more than it bothers me) and leads you to downvote (but I won't downvote for this):
    • If an entire node is written in 37337 5cr1p7
    • If a question is posted with a un-informative node name (e.g. "HELP! PLEASE!")

    I understand that It may 'scramble' the info and be considered has something to be fighted (although I prefer /msg to educate in this case)

    But some doesn't seem so legit IMHO :
    • If the node is a joke node & isn't funny (but I haven't done this yet so...)
    • If a node is a 'fluff node' intended just to
    • that one extra vote you needed to get to n XP garnish
    They are way too subjectives !
    How will you be sure that you didn't miss a joke
    (I did once and downvoted tilly !!)
    Are you sure you have all elements to find if a post is funny ?
    (where you on the CB just before davorg made is pony AM post ?)
    How can you be sure that someone is posting to gain XP and not only to be kind or add something (an info/nuance that again you may miss...)

    Don't get me wrong !
    I'm not saying that what you do is bad,
    I'm just defending the Idea that if there's any chance that a post may be legit, we must not downvote it.
    It MAY seems a way (not funny/XP whoring) and not be just like it seems...
    There's enough "good" reason to downvote why not to stick with those ones ?

    As a last word, a downvote is only useful if you explain why you donwvote (hint use /msg ;-)
    Be brave enough to do it, I wasn't always but I try.
    Try it too, and you'll see that you'll soon focus on ++ then...

    "Only Bad Coders Code Badly In Perl" (OBC2BIP)

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