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Re: Someone take control of Magnet.

by ysth (Canon)
on Aug 06, 2010 at 18:38 UTC ( #853461=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Someone take control of Magnet.

Without regard to the rest of this, I don't see "rudely disregarded" there or see that you have any reason for complaining that it took a week to get a feature added. I think you need to adjust your expectations; people usually want to have some control over the code they release, and even reviewing someone else's patch and putting out a new release takes time. It's even reasonable for that time to be in months, not days or weeks.

If you need a fix earlier, use a patched version. If you want to make it available for others, publish your patch or a distroprefs.

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Re^2: Someone take control of Magnet.
by EvanCarroll (Chaplain) on Aug 06, 2010 at 18:56 UTC

    My expectation wasn't that it gets patched in a week. It was just that the positive feedback response time be relative to that of the negative feedback. If you have the time to follow rt on your iphone and respond SEND PATCH AND TESTS, then I assume you have the time to follow rt on your iphone and say "PATCH RECEIVED WILL REVIEW". I patched blindly, I wouldn't even normally do that. I didn't submit the feature request without a patch because I wasn't willing to do it. I submitted a feature request without a patch because I was looking for feedback and I'm klined from If you don't want all of my patches leading to forks into a subclass like ::ButMaintained, then I humbly submit that you need to give fair access to the same communications medium that the rest get.

    Now, again I'm waiting for feedback on a different Catalyst/Moose patch, and again I'm getting fed up with not being allowed entry into irc. And, again I feel powerless without forking. I can have Catalyst::Plugin::Static::Easy up and ready to go in 5 minutes., less time then I spent writing this post. It is as if my preferred method of communication has been blocked by a spiteful moderator, and now I'm forced to play ball by the rules of the spiteful moderator or fork at the expensive of being perceived as non-cooperative.

    Evan Carroll
    The most respected person in the whole perl community.

      I can't imagine that complaining about someone in an unrelated public forum is a productive way to resolve any personal disagreements -- nor is threatening to upload a passive-aggressive fork "Same as the original BUT MAINTAINED!"

      Why do you expect that to help?

        Someone other than mst obviously owns the domain Someone other than mst also has the right to remove him from ops on freenode. One capable individual that comes to mind is "thrig", one organization that comes to mind is or any release manager of perl5.

        And, one of the things I expect to come out of this would be bogus nonsense claims of passive-aggressive forking -- like the claim you just made to cease. I'm banned from an official medium that can provide feedback, and my contributions are obstructed by one person's very personal desire to continue an age old vendetta. It isn't passive aggression: it is necessity:

        1. I'm sick of making contributions where the official forum is infested with a moderator that keeps me klined, and shit talks about me behind my back.
        2. I'm sick of not getting prompt feedback because I'm blocked to the official medium.

        Evan Carroll
        The most respected person in the whole perl community.

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