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Re: New Monks

by ZZamboni (Curate)
on Jun 09, 2001 at 09:29 UTC ( #87146=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to New Monks

I think it's a great idea to provide this document, but like frag, I think it should be made into a web page that appears after you create your account (and the password email should contain a link to it). I know I never read anything that comes in password emails: I just extract the information I need and delete or file it.

--ZZamboni


Comment on Re: New Monks
Re: Re: New Monks
by arhuman (Vicar) on Jun 09, 2001 at 09:47 UTC
    I totally agree with this idea, as a modification I'd suggest to set the default user page to this text, this way there will be no more 'Empty user page' and it will render this text even more visible...

    So sad offering plate isn't added at the end...

    Anyway it's a GREAT IDEA


    "Only Bad Coders Code Badly In Perl" (OBC2BIP)
Re: Re: New Monks
by mpolo (Chaplain) on Jun 09, 2001 at 10:33 UTC
    I think this is the best option to avoid any spam-sensitivities that might be raised by receiving a mega email upon signup.

    We'll also have to run this through a spell-checker... Not "Monestry" but "Monastery".

      Fixed the Monastery and other typos.

      Looks like the consensus view is no big spam mail, but the basic idea is OK. Text changed to reflect this so this node becomes where we want to direct new monks. As has been noted there are three possible ways to do this:

      1. Send a link to here with the password email.

      2. Send a /msg to each new user with the link.

      3. Add a link to here to the new user's home node +/- an option to remove this link.

      I think all three might be the best to ensure it has a fair chance of being seen by those who may benefit. The password email will stay short, the /msg can be removed with a single click, and the link on the home node keeps it available and if an optional remove this link checkbox is included you can ditch that easily to. There are a host of options in the user settings config already.

      To test support for each of these options I have added three nodes, one for each option. I would invite you all to vote ++ for your preferred options, and - or nothing if you don't like them.

      Sure I may get a few extra XP from this - maybe I will get all the voting nodes reaped :-( but as they say 1,000,000 XP and 2 bits buys you a cup of coffee.

      If you want to vote without giving me XPs I have added a node where you can vote (-) to give me negative XPs to even the balance from voting.

      tachyon

        I voted on those already, but a few comments:
        2. Send a /msg to each new user with the link.
        I'm not saying that we should (most likely we should not, at least not without approval) but this could be implemented without changes to the server, by someone having a program that monitors the "New users" section of Newest Nodes and automatically /msg's them. Of course, it would be much better if the message came from root.
        3. Add a link to here to the new user's home node +/- an option to remove this link.
        This could be implemented without the need for one more user option. Simply add it as the default text of a new user's home node, and then the user can remove it him/herself.

        On the other hand, I upvoted this idea, but now I'm not so sure I like it very much, because all the people who create accounts and never come back will have home nodes with these little messages...

        So here's another idea: how about adding a link to this node as the first thing in the "information" nodelete (call it "Welcome message" or something like that), and by default make it the first node, so that new users will be more likely to see it. Maybe make that link bold for all initiates.

        --ZZamboni


        2. Send a /msg to each new user with the link.

        One problem with this is that some users may not immediately know how to get rid of the message after they have gotten the link. If you are to /msg the new user you should also include instructions (or a link) on how to get rid of the message so that they don't have to go searching for it themselves. Sometimes people don't find it out for a while :-)

        just my thoughts,
        jynx

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