in reply to Site facelift?
It's apparent to me, after looking at all the comments, that some of you wold like to see the site updated while others do not.
Perhaps we should create a poll that's on the front page and let the community vote on it. Maybe at first we could create a poll that let's people rate the site:
I don't know, something like that. Run that for a month or two. Once those results are tallied, then you can figure out how to raise money to get the site revamped or find a designer that's willing to take on the project.
The mock ups could be voted on by the community as well with another poll, or offer some different style sheets they can choose from. Maybe even keep this one around named "retro", but I wouldn't use it as the default.