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Re^2: Password Generation and Module Multiplication

by ysth (Canon)
on Nov 28, 2010 at 08:11 UTC ( #874083=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Password Generation and Module Multiplication
in thread Password Generation and Module Multiplication

Brute force attacks against a single password, granted.

But without complexity rules, a letter-only brute force attack or rainbow table attack against a list of hashed passwords will too easily pick off the lazy users. I'd assume the complexity rules are really designed to protect against this case.

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Re^3: Password Generation and Module Multiplication
by sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Nov 29, 2010 at 13:42 UTC

    That, basically, is the case.   The number-one most often used password is:   password.   Close behind them are:   enter, secret.

    Nevertheless, it doesn’t work.   Enforcing complex password-rules simply causes more passwords to be written down.   When a system is broken into, it usually is not from “forcing” a password.   There are too many “other” ways into a complex system.

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[SuicideJunkie]: spies would want a system to not be able to audit.
[erix]: spies should use a type-writer, no power needed, no auditable
[erix]: if all else fails, eat the paper
[erix]: a few years ago there was suddenly the news that the Kremlin was using typewriters again. Heard nothing about it afterward
[erix]: (maybe that means it worked)

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