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by simonodell (Acolyte)
on Jul 11, 2011 at 13:17 UTC ( #913697=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

PerlMonks Admin;

Please delete my account and all data pertaining to it. I no longer wish to use this website, and no longer wish to be subjected to the outright and blatant cynicism which sharing my discoveries arouses regardless of how humbly I try to phrase my attempts at doing so.

I have decided that is not worth my time trying to share what I already have and you guys don't have, and I have decided it will be more worth my time to simply and completely monopolise the fruits of my labour unless or until someone re-invents the unique and highly powerful wheel I have crafted on my own without any help or guidance.

I no longer have any wish to share it or receive "advice" on how I should just follow the heard sheeplike and use the standards which to be frank from my perspective I find rather akin to working with COBOL. Nor do I care what you think about that or how you mentally categorise this message.

Not yours,

S

Comment on Please Delete Me
Re: Please Delete Me
by Corion (Pope) on Jul 11, 2011 at 13:30 UTC

    It's sad that you feel that the responses you get to your idea are cynical and that your approach at humility is not met with the reaction you expect. You are of course free to continue to use your unique approach, as it already seems to have served you well in practice.

    It is unfortunate that you do not want to highlight the differences between your tool and the existing tools. Doing so might make it easier for potential users of your toolset to evaluate what your new tool does and in what ways it is superior to the existing solutions already in place.

    Please see Re^3: Why is it?, which contains an approach on how to disable your account.

Re: Please Delete Me
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 11, 2011 at 13:34 UTC

    Too bad, that was kind of sudden.

    Perhaps after some reflection you will return, at least to let the interested know if you've taken up this project elsewhere in public.

    Cheers

Re: Please Delete Me
by zek152 (Pilgrim) on Jul 11, 2011 at 13:40 UTC

    simonodell:

    A mere 36 minutes after posting your meditation, Why is it?, you posted this quite strongly typed response.(see what I did there? ;) I'll be here all week. )

    I am sorry that you have not been met with the reception you may have hoped. This is the internet and rarely are punches pulled. Hopefully you can read past the responses you find unproductive and see some of the good advice that others have offered.

    Some of us are trying to help you get your point across. I would be willing to look at your code and offer any suggestions I have regarding as to a possible way ways to restructure or improve the performance. If you are interested msg me and I will provide an email address.

    I hope you reconsider your decision to leave PerlMonks. Give the site a chance and remember that when it comes to the internet, people's opinions are only as important as you think they are.

Re: Please Delete Me
by Your Mother (Canon) on Jul 11, 2011 at 14:09 UTC
    • My take on this: everyone was actually extremely nice and contructive considering; Dunning–Kruger effect. I'm nice and contructive too until the "I'm too good for this so I'm going to take my ball and go home" stuff comes out.
    • Your take on this, via Strunk and White:

      "What," an imaginary student asks Mr. White, "if it comes natural to me to experiment rather than conform? What if I am a pioneer or even a genius?"

      "Then be one...."

Re: Please Delete Me (Regarding Criticism)
by luis.roca (Deacon) on Jul 11, 2011 at 17:31 UTC

    “I have decided that is not worth my time trying to share what I already have and you guys don't have, and I have decided it will be more worth my time to simply and completely monopolise the fruits of my labour unless or until someone re-invents the unique and highly powerful wheel I have crafted on my own without any help or guidance.”

    You're obviously free to do that though work is made better through a healthy critique. However, since you seem to have made up your mind, this post is more for those finding the critique stage of creation difficult.


    You should never take a critique personally. Granted, some are not very good at it but most people (here in particular) want to figure out how the work can be better. If you present work for critique you can't also present it as a finished product. The entire purpose of a critique is to figure out IF this work is close to done and if not what needs to happen in order to achieve it's goal.

    In art school we had to put up our work every week on the wall. Every instructor had a variation of the following guide for the class when giving a critique of their fellow classmate's work:

    1. Does it address the stated problem/goal? How? Be specific.
    2. What elements of the work are successful and which are not? Why?
    3. How well has the piece been technically executed? What if anything can be improved?
    4. Critique the work not the student.

    There's also advice instructors give for the student who's work is being critiqued:

    1. Listen carefully and take notes.
    2. The critique is of the work NOT YOU.

    Sometimes critiques can reflect the person's biases more than anything they are viewing. There is nothing that can be done about that as most people don't even realize they are doing it. Sometimes you want to hear their biases (an example would be UI testing). Experience will help separate unhelpful biases from constructive criticism.


    "...the adversities born of well-placed thoughts should be considered mercies rather than misfortunes." — Don Quixote
Re: Please Delete Me
by Argel (Prior) on Jul 11, 2011 at 20:38 UTC
    Wow! What a waste of energy!! Instead of trying to convince everyone of how great you think your system is, why not just start focusing on ways to improve it. Post some code, etc. or at least algorithms you are using. Or profile it to find the slower bits and ask for advice on how to improve that section of the code.

    Oh, and since you complained about someone anonymously downvoting you in another thread, I wanted you to know that I downvoted you in this one because you asked to have your account and your posts deleted instead of trying a different approach (such as the one I just mentioned above).

    Even if you cannot convince others that your idea is the best way to go, you can still tackle the project yourself, for your own pleasure. And if you do go that route, you can still ask for help and advice on here, albeit for specific ares of the code.

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
    My deviantART gallery

Re: Please Delete Me
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 12, 2011 at 02:27 UTC

    ...I beleive we are all mature enough here for a fair point to be taken regardless who is making it.

    Your words, not mine.

Re: Please Delete Me
by thezip (Vicar) on Jul 12, 2011 at 04:35 UTC

    I giggled when I read this.

    I believe the proper reaction from you should have been to open your eyes and say "Thank you very much, may I have another?"


    What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. - Christopher Hitchens
Re: Please Delete Me
by Tux (Monsignor) on Jul 12, 2011 at 12:20 UTC

    Seeing you still post here on a daily basis, /me wonders if you want to be deleted at all, or if you are just enjoying yourself in telling the rest how deviant and wrong they all are.

    well, whatever makes you happy ...


    Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn
Re: removed by author
by ikegami (Pope) on Jul 13, 2011 at 23:20 UTC
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    Title: Please Delete Me
    PerlMonks Admin;

    Please delete my account and all data pertaining to it. I no longer wish to use this website, and no longer wish to be subjected to the outright and blatant cynicism which sharing my discoveries arouses regardless of how humbly I try to phrase my attempts at doing so.

    I have decided that is not worth my time trying to share what I already have and you guys don't have, and I have decided it will be more worth my time to simply and completely monopolise the fruits of my labour unless or until someone re-invents the unique and highly powerful wheel I have crafted on my own without any help or guidance.

    I no longer have any wish to share it or receive "advice" on how I should just follow the heard sheeplike and use the standards which to be frank from my perspective I find rather akin to working with COBOL. Nor do I care what you think about that or how you mentally categorise this message.

    Not yours,

    S
Re: Please Delete Me
by perl.j (Pilgrim) on Jul 14, 2011 at 12:08 UTC

    Please read the FAQ about your problem at:

    http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=474389

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