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Re: Daylight saving time in my region should be...

by Anonymous Monk
on Dec 01, 2011 at 14:47 UTC ( #941086=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Daylight saving time in my region should be...

DST should be scrapped and we should all switch to UTC. It's just a number, and it doesn't matter in the slightest if the sun comes up at 1400 and $work starts at 1430.

When the fastest method of communication we had was trains, time zones made sense. Now they are just in the way.


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Re^2: Daylight saving time in my region should be...
by ikegami (Pope) on Dec 01, 2011 at 23:30 UTC

    I don't think you've considered the ramifications of switch to UTC..

    Take for example a company with offices across three time zones. "Our office hours are 9-5" would become "our office hours are 9-5, 10-6, 11-7 between these dates and 10-6, 11-7, 12-8 the rest of the time".

    Then, consider the shift in operating hours of most establishments in the spring and fall. Even if you officially abolish time zones, they're still going to persist unofficially because the chaos that would be caused by leaving it up to each establishment to decide if and when to shift their hours is just too great.

    They are still very useful.

      Not at all. If we ALL switched to UTC then office hours would be the same all year round all over the world and you could call anyone from your office without having to wait for them to wake up and get to work. If only we weren't so addicted to sunlight...
      -- Time flies when you don't know what you're doing
        You're incorrectly equating switching to UTC to no longer tracking the sun with operating hours. The two concepts are orthogonal. One can still operate during daylight hours while only using UTC, and one can have no daylight savings hours without using UTC.
      "Our office hours are 9-5" would become "our office hours are 9-5, 10-6, 11-7 ..."

      I don't think so. You'd say "office hours are 9-7." The fact that some of your offices might be closed during that window is (presumably) irrelevant.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

        What? How is it irrelevant to tell employees they need to be at work from 10-6 instead of 9-7?

Re^2: Daylight saving time in my region should be...
by je44ery (Hermit) on Dec 07, 2011 at 15:32 UTC

    While the minimalist, neat freak, wishing-I-lived-in-a-Shinto-shrine part of me agrees completely with anonymous and jdporter, the reality is that most humans aren't like me. Therefore, it is my belief, that even when we have space-based nations, and these space-based nations become economically dominant, the common rustic person on Earth will still use time zones. And, of course, there will be some American-descended space-based nation that refuses to convert to metric time like the rest of the solar system.

    What bothers me now however, is why does a new "day" start in the middle of the night? Shouldn't 00:00 be the time when the sun rises during the Spring/Fall equinox?

      Midnight or Noon are easy to track when they happen, and are measurable any time of the year. Sunrise varies, so you'd have to accurately track when the equinoxes are, and then accurately measure when sunrise happens, and then have an accurate clock to keep that time for the other 363 days of the year. We've only reliably been able to do that for a couple of hundred years. The definition of 'day' predates that by centuries.

      (By the way: In tropical areas, it's not uncommon for the historic 'day' to start at sunrise. Of course, sunrise varies by at most an hour over the course of a year for many of them.)

      Curse you! I come here to ask a work-related question about perl and I spend 3 centidays reading about metric time!

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