That even when men are trying to do the right thing and be sensitive to women, they often still do the wrong thing for the right reasons.
I think this thread is not an example for patronizing. There might be women who don't like to be subjects to those discussions, and I would prefer to not be either. Maybe sometime it's not necessary any more?
Like shouting at a deaf man, or trying guide a blind man by grabbing his arm, their attempts to 'fix things' are often worse than what they are trying to fix.
yeah, you could ask before grabbing his arm, and it might be annoying if it happens often, but it's still showing a good will and is better than running in the blind man's way. And I don't read anything comparable to grabbing one man's arm here. Maybe you can ask one of your experts if pemungkah
did "the wrong thing" in their eyes?
which completely detract from the less frequent but far more serious issues & matters that *need* to be dealt with.
oh yeah, we should do something about the global warming. eat less meat - very easy and it works for me! (SCNR)