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reading the IRC logs or the mailing list archives of that time period.

I've long thought that the "first Parrot Developers Summit for 2011" gets to the heart of the issues. Am I wrong?

{Parrot needing to evolve in to an optimal NQP backend} was never and would never be acceptable to Parrot.

Does me changing the word from "dedicated" to "optimal" (which more accurately reflects what I think Patrick proposed) make any difference?

When Patrick and Jonathan said that they were going to rewrite NQP again to focus on VM independence ... Rakudo Star was less than a year old

Do you mean to focus more on VM independence?

Patrick decided to go for a multibackend VM strategy in the summer of 2009, as described in the talk video I linked earlier in this thread. Coding on the multi backend NQP began in October 2009.

Or was there just mass confusion between the projects (perhaps because Patrick didn't have sufficient time to keep channels properly open due to his RL circumstances)?

I'll let most of the rest of what you wrote pass without further comment, with a couple exceptions:

I think you'd have to be quite a fool to imagine that {the new object model rewrite} was motivated by anything other than "We don't want to use Parrot anymore." ... when the paid developers of Rakudo told the volunteers of Parrot ... that Parrot had no place in Rakudo, what did you expect to happen?

For better or worse, I have indeed drunk the P6 koolaid, including thinking that Patrick is a nice honest guy with integrity. I don't find credible the claim that Patrick said in 2011 that Parrot had no place in Rakudo.

I hear you about asking the Parrot folk you listed. I'm dubious about that being a good thing because it seems to me likely to be unnecessarily painful and divisive no matter what gets said. Which perhaps also applies to this exchange. So I'll leave you to have the last word if you wish to say something else.

Thank you for all the good things you do for Perl and for this exchange. I think I finally understand why you dislike Perl 6, or, rather, Rakudo.

~~ the P6 Spokesweaselfool


In reply to Re: Rewriting History for P6 Spokesweasels (was MoarVM update) by raiph
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