As one of the people on #perlmonks at the time the XP subject
came up, I tend to agree with you ivory
. I would have
liked to see the proposal put before the community in
general, I missed a good deal of the discussion on specific
While I feel that I made my feelings known about XP,
I was very surprised to come in today and find the changes
already taken place. (Of course, vroom can do whatever
the hell he wants to. That's fine by me. And the system
can always be changed if no one likes it.) The specific
points that I'd like to take up with you are:
- Why is it important that less experienced monks
remain at lower levels?
I don't think it is! I do believe that when you create
something like XP, people give it value, even if it is
completely useless. What is important is that XP count for
something. Why have XP if everyone's a bishop or a saint
by November of this year because of the vote-out bonus?
Sure it makes a person feel good, but what kind of person
would fool themselves (and the rest of the community) into
thinking they were members just because they used their
votes randomly every day to get the vote-out bonus?? I
think the point of XP is to really measure something.
Honestly, I don't think that anyone should be rewarded
for voting. You don't get paid to vote in the real world.
Maybe that's why only the people that care enough to vote
actually do so.
- Old School Monks
I guess I'm an old school monk, but I don't know much about
perl. I use this site to learn about perl, and to participate
in the community. I hardly ever know the answers to
SOPW questions, but I always am willing to share my opinion
on the site and the community. I am pretty strict about
voting, in that I vote for the posts that I feel are
truly worthwhile, and I never use up my votes (except on days
where there is an abundance of good posts). I guess what I
am saying is that I don't consider myself to be "aligned"
with the other "old school monks" on this or necessarily
any other issue. Had I been revamping XP, I would have done
it differently. But I guess I'll let it run on the new system for a
while, because it's probably better than before, and it's good to try something new. I expect you, ivory, to thoroughly bitch out vroom
if you think the system doesn't work. You have a voice, and
I am glad to see you using it. You should come visit
#perlmonks on irc.slashnet.org -- everyone who reads this
- Ego, Politics, and Posturing
I'd like to see less of the ego thing. I call people on it when
I can. I think it is bad for the community. On this issue,
I think many of the so-called old school monks felt that
we didn't deserve all the XP (pseudo-ego) we had from voting. In fact,
I don't care whether people consider my posts good -- I care
about saying things that need to be said. Thus this post.
Politics and Posturing: people will measure themselves against others,
and find themselves lacking. They will try to make up for it.
Politics is inevitable. The best you can do is (a) participate in
what currently passes for a system, or (b) paint it on the
walls. For example:
Talks that are effectively secret because hardly
anyone knows about #perlmonks can not be considered
sufficiently discussed within the community. Damn it.
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