Who cares if p5ee was a failure that never produced anything or never caught up with Java? They still tried to define enterprise software, and I fouund a much more trenchant definition than I found anywhere else.
I don't really have an inferiority complex with Java, so I don't try to deny its existence eitgher.
Perhaps you disagree with the p5ee definition. You can tell us how you think they're wrong (and that would be much more useful).
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